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Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#121

My 2017 model probably short circuited during a lightning strike, because it stopped working after a storm. My friend offered to sell me his 2019 but I thought there'd be new hardware. I should have bought it. I love the Shield, compared to even the Chromecast at the time, we noticed a huge difference in colour on the TV. If NVIDIA ever produce a refresh, they'll have my money.

But you can buy it now. I'm not sure what's different if you thought you should have bought your friends.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#122

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

I've been using the Thomson Google TV Streaming Stick. It's cheap (~40 euros) and it works surprisingly well for what it is. It's sold in Europe, but I think you can find the same product in the US at Walmart, rebranded as Onn+ Streaming Device.

It's not as powerful as an Nvidia Shield, of course, but at least is not a random product from Temu riddled with spyware.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#123

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

Google TV Streamer?

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#124

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

I've been using the Thomson Google TV Streaming Stick. It's cheap (~40 euros) and it works surprisingly well for what it is. It's sold in Europe, but I think you can find the same product in the US at Walmart, rebranded as Onn+ Streaming Device. It's not as powerful as an Nvidia Shield, of course, but at least is not a random product from Temu riddled with spyware.

I would suspect it being a Google product, it also is riddled with spyware.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#125
> Nvidia released the first Shield Android TV in 2015

> it took about 18 months to [create] an entirely new security stack [...] Android updates aren’t actually that much work compared to DRM security, and some of its partners weren’t that keen on re-certifying older products.

> In February 2025, Nvidia released Shield Patch 9.2 [...] That was the Tegra X1 [security] bug finally being laid to rest on the 2015 and 2017 Shield boxes.

This is a real engineering marvel. Everybody else would have just given up entirely long time ago. DRM bugs are in most case practically unrecoverable for products that shipped already (and physically in the hands of the adversary). The incentive to tell to consumers "Ditch that product you bought from us 2 years ago, and buy the more recent hardware revision or successor" is extremely strong.

This really feels like a platform that is maintained with pride and love by the nvidia engineering teams (regardless of one's opinion about DRM per se).

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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I love my shield, it’s been a staple. If they wanted to really knock it out the park, the next step would be a steamos port with DRM support.

Unless Valve are going to do some work to enable that and support a hardware backed chain of trust for drivers that's not going to happen. (I think it should happen but that's not the same as that it will.)

That would be great, honestly. Imagine just being able to install Android apps like Netflix, Disney+, ... On your Steam Deck or Steam Machine and having it work out of the box with Widevine L1. Then you'd truly just only need one device attached to your TV for all your entertainment needs. And then a great and supported one at that.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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post #109

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

The next best is probably an Apple TV 4k, but it can't direct play as many audio and video formats as the Shield.

It also can’t stream games

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#128

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

I've been using the Thomson Google TV Streaming Stick. It's cheap (~40 euros) and it works surprisingly well for what it is. It's sold in Europe, but I think you can find the same product in the US at Walmart, rebranded as Onn+ Streaming Device. It's not as powerful as an Nvidia Shield, of course, but at least is not a random product from Temu riddled with spyware.

Not sure how it compares, but Xiaomi TV Box S is similarly priced. It's physically bigger (slightly), which somehow comforts me a bit.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

#129

I have one of them, and been using it daily since I bought it in 2016. Bought a cheap Bluetooth remote control from AliExpress which was an upgrade over the Logitech Harmony crap I had earlier. If it were to break, knock on wood it won't happen, what options are there? I have tried to look but haven't really found anything that is free of Chinese backdoors and has decent hardware. For just Plex or Jellyfin a N100 box…

The built-in OS on my LG is honestly good enough for me. There's a jellyfin client in the LG app store that works well enough (it's just a wrapper for a browser client as I understand it). But I only use my TV to watch shows/movies, not sure about other usecases.

Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using the Thomson Google TV Streaming Stick. It's cheap (~40 euros) and it works surprisingly well for what it is. It's sold in Europe, but I think you can find the same product in the US at Walmart, rebranded as Onn+ Streaming Device. It's not as powerful as an Nvidia Shield, of course, but at least is not a random product from Temu riddled with spyware.

I would suspect it being a Google product, it also is riddled with spyware.

It's not made by Google, it's just certified. So it must have the same amount of spyware that the Nvidia Shield has (which we all know it's not zero).
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