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As a non-American, I'm just wondering, why won't you help these people get legal citizenship status since it's clear as day most people want them in? Why won't you protest against current citizenship rules, since it's clear you want them to be changed? edit: I see it's just a simple "f** ice" and "you need to go" case. I'll show myself out
Not sure how you concluded this. Particularly for unskilled labour.
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The private sector is only "more competent" at a certain size. Google, Microsoft, Meta - they're all largely inefficient and only effective as it pertains to the dollars they spend in lobbying. All of these companies are largely wasteful with respect to the money they spend on executives and initiatives that go against their own customers. They mirror the USG more and more year over year.
One big difference is that public companies restructure when things aren’t looking rosy. Government organizations don’t often reorganize and structurally they don’t have much flexibility.
DHS was founded in 2002, TSA was founded in 2001. CFPB in 2010, Space Force in 2019.
Even agencies that have been around “forever” aren’t that old. The EPA was founded in 1970, and OSHA was founded in 1971.
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> I was predicting all this You predicted HHS and CMMS having the address patients give them on HHS and CMMS forms? Like, sure. Good job. I predict the IRS has my address. > This is a devil's bargain Medicare (and the IRS) having your home address is a devil’s bargain?
I'm referring to mobile phones, software that constantly spies on you, location tracking, and mass data fusion without any regard for legal limitations or privacy. Each individual data point seems normal or innocuous, but when you tie them all together and then leverage the tech panopticon you have an insane amount of detail on every person. There are no meaningful legal safeguards on how this data is used, especiall…
None of that is relevant to the article. It’s about HHS data being queried to give ICE probable addresses. What you’re doing is indistinguishable from whataboutism.
I don’t think that’s your intent. But we have an actual abuse of public data at hand here. Going on a tangent about dragnet surveillance is off topic and misleading.
If I'm reading this correctly, they're just straight up violating the law. They're sharing information with ICE under an obligation to share information of aliens, but they're actually sharing everyone's information in an effort to identify aliens. That seems like a pretty slam shut case if there were any mechanism to investigate and prosecute it.
As a general rule, the first amendment protects the right to say, e.g. "John Doe lives at 123 Main St." John may not like that people know that, but that doesn't generally limit other peoples' right to speak freely.
As a non-American, I'm just wondering, why won't you help these people get legal citizenship status since it's clear as day most people want them in? Why won't you protest against current citizenship rules, since it's clear you want them to be changed? edit: I see it's just a simple "f** ice" and "you need to go" case. I'll show myself out
> since it's clear as day most people want them in? Not sure how you concluded this. Particularly for unskilled labour.
Part of the Miranda warning is "anything you say can and will be used against you." I think of the "will be" part as a lie, because they're usually not that diligent or competent even when they're that malicious. But it's still a good heuristic when it comes to giving your PII to the government. I used to be an outlier conspiracy theorist for believing that. To those coming around to it, welcome.
I bet that if all conspiracy theorists will be more worried that their neighbors become crazy and would try to do something positive about it (talk to them, befriend them, influence them, etc.) the outcome might be better for everybody.
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And then governments use this data, but can wash their hands of it saying "we didn't collect it"
Yes, retroactively manufactured cause for a warrant to find only the information you want. Also, don't forget that profit maximization means selling to the highest bidder, which might not be US govt. Certainly, there is means, motive, and opportunity for individuals with access to sell this info to geopolitical adversaries, and it is BY FAR the easiest way for adversaries to acquire it. It has happened before and it…
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> since it's clear as day most people want them in? Not sure how you concluded this. Particularly for unskilled labour.
Well if ICE deports illegal immigrants, and you're anti-ICE, then you do want those illegal immigrants? Or how is this supposed to work?
No. I’m anti-murder.
This logic is like saying someone who objects to the Nazis is racist against Germans.
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The article says the data was 'surveilled' by Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and HHS in the performance of Medicare/Medicaid claims, with that surveillance fed to Palentir. Palentir has certainly assisted, but the origin of the data collection here was public and then unleashed by the state to private entity.
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