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White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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Post by PearlRiver »

hackable_sand wrote: post #107
mothballed wrote: post #39

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It's nice that they're doing it. And they are certainly the bravest we have to offer; much braver than you or I. That said, the bravest we have are asking that they please not be murdered. And then peacefully kneeling down to be executed, even when they are armed. Obviously this only emboldens the murderers. The options moving forward look bleak.

What a bitchy comment Do yourself a favor and sit this one out while the rest of us fix it.

It cannot be fixed. Red states would have to flip to blue states. I recall general Lee to consider the civil war a stupid mistake but still off he went because he was from Virginia.

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Post by [deleted] »

alright2565 wrote: post #53
secabeen wrote: post #16

Slander and libel laws are complicated, but she should have a pretty good case: - The defendant knew or should have know that he or she was making an untrue or defamatory statement about you. (Yes, they edited the photo.) - The false statement must clearly identify you. (It's a clear photo.) - The defendant must have spread the false information to at least one third party who is not the target. For a libel case, the…

The supreme court will declare them immune to the suit, if they haven't already done so.

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Re: White House alters arrest photo of ICE protester, says "the memes will continue"

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Post by etruong42 »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #9
wmeredith wrote: post #2

There's been a lot of talk on HN about generative AI and how it will be weaponized to scam people and politically for propoganda. That reality got here very quickly. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem posted a photo of Nekima Levy Armstrong, a Minnesota civil rights attorney, being arrested at a political protest. A half hour later, the official White House X account posted an altered version in which Armstro…

There are people on this site who will still turn out to vote for this administration and their allies in Congress. It's wild.

Is it particularly wild? There are many possible interpretations of your statement. Do you expect the people on this site to be particularly different from the voters who almost put Trump into office 2016 and actually voted him into office 2024? Or did you mean to express shock that anyone at all would vote for Trump compared to voting for someone like Biden?

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Post by skygazer »

Itoldmyselfso wrote: post #117
skygazer wrote: post #113

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I also notice the commentariat here is progressive, but it seems the silent but pervasive downvote campaigns are dominated by, or more charitably, inadvertently aligned with those MAGA oriented views. I’ve come to think of the right wingers mainly contributing to the community with their downvotes. Perhaps they don’t feel they would fair well if they tried to engage in discussion? But it’s an interesting dynamic that…

Those downvote campaigns could easily come from bots and not real users.

In light of that possibility, HN's voting system is probably too rudimentary, private and zero-cost for the modern world. Now I'm not sure if it's naivete, laziness or meant to allow opaque maligned censorship.

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Post by GrowingSideways »

Tagbert wrote: post #95
pix128 wrote: post #85

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I see that as wishful thinking. HN has always been very much right leaning. I very much doubt much has changed.

HN has been right leaning? That seems an odd take. Most comments I see on here lean more progressive. Or are you talking about the billionaire tech class who are in their own demographic?

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Post by thomassmith65 »

dylan604 wrote: post #108
thomassmith65 wrote: post #67

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My suspicion is that, here on HN, the number has dwindled considerably, even as the number has risen among the most famous figures in tech. HN really should conduct a survey, like StackOverflow does. It would be fascinating.

> My suspicion is that, here on HN, the number has dwindled considerably What makes you think that? The number of articles that get flagged and the pattern of the flagging and down voting would suggest that not to be true even if the actual comments might have slowed

This is anecdotal, but two things have impressed me:

1) It is no longer the case when I criticize something Trump has said or done, that I instantly get downvoted into oblivion or flagged.

2) Until recently, when someone posted some moderate comment, someone else often replied with a variant of "HN is a liberal echo chamber" I haven't noticed those replies for a while.

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Post by tremon »

Itoldmyselfso wrote: post #117
skygazer wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also notice the commentariat here is progressive, but it seems the silent but pervasive downvote campaigns are dominated by, or more charitably, inadvertently aligned with those MAGA oriented views. I’ve come to think of the right wingers mainly contributing to the community with their downvotes. Perhaps they don’t feel they would fair well if they tried to engage in discussion? But it’s an interesting dynamic that…

Those downvote campaigns could easily come from bots and not real users.

Most downvote bots still appear to be observing US office hours though. There's a marked difference in voting patterns between the hours that Australia wakes up and California wakes up versus the rest of the day.

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Post by ben_w »

pix128 wrote: post #85
thomassmith65 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My suspicion is that, here on HN, the number has dwindled considerably, even as the number has risen among the most famous figures in tech. HN really should conduct a survey, like StackOverflow does. It would be fascinating.

I see that as wishful thinking. HN has always been very much right leaning. I very much doubt much has changed.

> HN has always been very much right leaning.

By whose standards? I'm European, so for me the US Democrat party is too far to the *right* to be electable; but by historical American standards, the impression I've had is this site has been centrist.

Conversely, the current standard of the US right wing seems to be that Bush Jr and Cheney were lefty liberal wokes who undermined the US national interest by working with NATO and Europe instead of taking every opportunity to undermine both…

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