Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released • Hacker News Board

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by RyanMcGreal » Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 10:42 AM UTC

trhtrsh wrote: post #112

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #60

In the past month or two, I've come around on Unity after hiding out in gnome-session-fallback and then cinnamon. With the launch bar icons shrunk to their smallest size and Docky on the bottom, the Unity interface has gotten to the point where it's smooth and usable. Call me a convert, but I decided Unity has gotten to the point where it's easier to work with it than to keep trying to work against it.

Well, not quite the level of praise that "it's worth the hassle of installing", but "not worth the hassle of uninstalling" is worth something, I guess.

I'm interested to experience what changes 12.10 brings to Unity. I have a hunch that sooner or later, Unity will improve to the point where it meets your former criterion as well as your latter.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by zanny » Fri, Oct 19, 2012, 11:20 PM UTC

trhtrsh wrote: post #109

zanny wrote: post #107

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I still have a bad feeling about how the Mint team have been actively forking every GTK3 project Gnome has. Especially when they forked Nautilus into Nemo, I really feel like they should have gone with Thunar or Marlin. Maybe they should have also opted to try unifying under XFCE and fixing gtk3 to work with it instead of just forking Gnome Shell. I dunno, I just feel like the direction of "fork everything even when…

The alternativees aren't GNOME, and many liked GNOME until very recently. (Well, it's been a year or 1.5 now, I guess, from the end-user perspective. Longer in development, I guess.) It seems like Mint is trying to execute a hostile takeover of GNOME. Of course, GNOME is free software and forkable, and branches aren't necessarily subservient to the lines they branch from, so "takeover" means "establish a reputation a…

XFCE is kind of gnome. Built off gtk2 and all. It was never mainline super integrated gnome, and it replaced a lot of dumb shit you didn't need to rewrite (see: the fudging calculator, the terminal emulator, etc) but I still feel like Cinnamon / XFCE should be in the same camp. They want the same thing, after all.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by tomrod » Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 4:09 AM UTC

trhtrsh wrote: post #116

tomrod wrote: post #43

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Obi says it best: "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

Are individual users still dependent on python2 on the desktop? I thought people were supposed to migrate years ago, and automated tools did most of the work.

I don't know. I wish I did, because then I wouldn't have made the afore comment. :/. It would not surprise me to find the occasional tool that still relies on it. As does my entire scientific library, unfortunately...

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by trotsky » Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 8:35 PM UTC

listic wrote: post #108

trotsky wrote: post #94

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be aware that this isn't a great user experience - a number of ubuntu specific features will work poorly or not at all while you're logged in under gnome shell, and several gnome 3 desktop integration features also won't be working. It's mostly fixable, but very much a trial and error experience.

Can installing Gnome Desktop break something in Unity?

I.... don't think so. It's hard for me to remember for sure, but if it did it wasn't anything big.