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Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know how resolution maps to ram in x11 but I assume at least one byte per pixel. Based on that assumption, there’s no chance you’d even be able to power a 4k monitor with 8mb of ram, let alone the rest of the system.

X11 was designed to support bit depths down to 1 bit per pixel.

X11, yes, but the modern graphics cards, no.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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I remember booting up Debian into an X11 session on a laptop with only 8 MB of RAM. (This would have been circa 2000, and I think I had to try a few different distros before finding one that worked. Also I don't think I did anything with it beyond Xterm and Xeyes.)

I don’t know how resolution maps to ram in x11 but I assume at least one byte per pixel. Based on that assumption, there’s no chance you’d even be able to power a 4k monitor with 8mb of ram, let alone the rest of the system.

Good thing 4k monitors didn't exist in 2000

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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I remember, in 2007, running FreeBSD on a desktop with 512MB RAM and only using 64MB of it running full GNOME 2 and a running instance of Firefox with a couple tabs. A totally standard desktop experience. Even better, my laptop at the time had only 128MB of RAM and ran Windows XP - a supported, albeit minimal, configuration. XP was bloatier than FreeBSD of course, and ran correspondingly less well, but replacing expl…

It's the web browser and electron based apps that are the primary consumers of ram on my desktops with the DE and OS ram usage being minimal by comparison.

I have an ancient laptop from 2008 with 4GB of ram that runs a modern KDE desktop and related applications just fine that I use for troubleshooting stuff. However, the moment I open a web browser it basically falls to pieces.

I hate everything about this. :-/

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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I remember booting up Debian into an X11 session on a laptop with only 8 MB of RAM. (This would have been circa 2000, and I think I had to try a few different distros before finding one that worked. Also I don't think I did anything with it beyond Xterm and Xeyes.)

A few years back, I had fun setting up an old X11 terminal I had in my rather eccentric retro computing collection.

But I don’t think I had much memory in it. I had ordered a fair bit more, but maybe only 4-8M.

I did get it to work with only minor difficulties, but man only the simplest of applications could run. The barebones basic GUI text editor that came with Ubuntu couldn’t even start up.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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post #106

I remember, in 2007, running FreeBSD on a desktop with 512MB RAM and only using 64MB of it running full GNOME 2 and a running instance of Firefox with a couple tabs. A totally standard desktop experience. Even better, my laptop at the time had only 128MB of RAM and ran Windows XP - a supported, albeit minimal, configuration. XP was bloatier than FreeBSD of course, and ran correspondingly less well, but replacing expl…

It's the web browser and electron based apps that are the primary consumers of ram on my desktops with the DE and OS ram usage being minimal by comparison. I have an ancient laptop from 2008 with 4GB of ram that runs a modern KDE desktop and related applications just fine that I use for troubleshooting stuff. However, the moment I open a web browser it basically falls to pieces. I hate everything about this. :-/

That's easy to fix:

    Step 1:

    sudo tee /etc/tmpfiles.d/mglru.conf 

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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A long time ago the power supply blew out in the machine I played Counter Strike: Source on and I was a teenager just barely 16 with no money so I couldn't replace it. I was able to keep in touch with my drug dealers and my girlfriend's friends (who were also all super hot) which was very important to me at that age, in an environment where you really needed a car or people who had cars to do anything with anyone wor…

I’m surprised that OpenSolaris had hardware support for random Pentium II boxes, but I guess if you had a supported Ethernet card that everything else could work…

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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For us not in the know, why is this bad?

It's not, GNOME-Foundation aka Redhat aka IBM wants to "kill" X11, so they attach labels to discredit a project that wants to maintain X11:

https://en.ubunlog.com/The-XLibre-case-brings-out-the-worst-...

Same old story they try to repeat with DHH or the Framework Laptops because how dare you to support Omarchi:

https://world.hey.com/dhh/calling-someone-a-nazi-is-a-permis...

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When people feel underrepresented to the point of being bullied they turn to any voice which seems to reflect even a tiny fraction of their frustrations. There's a real mean spirit in open source lately and a lot of it seems to revolve around political views. There's become this idea that if you and I disagree on politics then it would be impossible for us to write quality software together. It's damaged a lot of goo…

My existence is not political. If someone doesn't think I should have rights and/or exist and/or thinks I am inferior because of who I am, then no, we cannot write quality software together. If someone disagrees with me on tax, foreign relations, government services, defense, etc policy, sure, we can disagree and still work together. What gives rise to people like Lunduke is not a simple thing, and something I don't…

Not agreeing with a particular description or categorization of you is not the same as thinking that you don't exist and not agreeing that you should have certain non-universal rights based on that categorization or that you should be able to force others in agreeing with your views isn't the same as thinking that you shouldn't have rights period.

Re: 200 MB RAM FreeBSD desktop

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Woulda been a nice article if it covered the real reason xlibre’s founder got fired from RH, Enrico’s had a long history of pissing people off and posting cringe on main: https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccin...

The issue (I think) is that FreeBSD and other non-Linux, X11-using distributions are being ignored in the path to using Wayland; deprecating X11 has a much broader impact as a result, which leads to supporting XLibre which does support X11 and does support non-Linux Unices that are running X11.
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