This is ironic timing given I was just banned from vibe coding and abusing my own desktop Hinge client relying on their API.
Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode
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Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode
#122The title is misleading if you don’t read the whole text: Anthropic is not blocking OpenCode from the API that they sell. They’ve blocked OpenCode from accessing the private Claude Code endpoints. These were not advertised or sold as usable with anything else. OpenCode reverse engineered the API and was trying to use it. The private API isn’t intended for use with other tools. Any tool that used it would get blocked.
> Any tool that used it would get blocked. Isn't that misleading from Anthropic side? The gist shows that only certain tools are block, not all. They're selectively enforcing their ToS.
They can enforce their ToS however they like. It's their product and platform.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a misunderstanding of the regulations. They’re not obligated to give other companies access to their services at a discounted rate.
They may however be obligated to not give customers access to their services at a discounted rate either - predatory pricing is at least some of the time and in some jurisdictions illegal.
What makes it predatory?
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Predatory pricing is selling something below cost to acquire/maintain market dominance. The Claude subscription used for Claude Code is to all appearances being sold substantially below the cost to run it, and it certainly seems that this is being done to maintain Claude Code's market dominance and force out competitors who cannot afford to subsidize LLM inference in the same way such as OpenCode. It's not a matter o…
The modern consumer benefit doctrine means predatory pricing is impossible to prosecute in 99% of cases. I’m not saying it’s right, but legally it is toothless.
This is true... in the US (though there is still that 1%). Anthropic operates globally and the US isn't the only country who ever realized it might be an issue.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
They may however be obligated to not give customers access to their services at a discounted rate either - predatory pricing is at least some of the time and in some jurisdictions illegal.
What makes it predatory?
The Claude subscription (i.e. the pro and max plans, not the API) is sold at what appears to be well below cost in what appears to be a blatant attempt to preserve/create market dominance for claude code, destroying competitors by making it impossible to compete without also having a war chest of money to give away.
Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode
#126I don't understand what's the threat from a CLI which is useless without AI models and Anthropic could be one of them?
Switching models is too easy and the models are turning into commodities. They want to own your dev environment, which they can ultimately charge more when compared to access to their model.
They’re afraid their customers will switch model provider in the future, so instead they made them switch now.
Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode
#127Asked Opus a question on Openrouter. 0.30$
Asked Minimax 2.1 that question. 0.008$
At some point it stops making sense. You cannot use "the good model" just for the hard bits without basically hand writing you own harness. Even then, it will need full, uncached context.
Feels like consulting a premium lawyer to ask how much time is it.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve used both Claude and Codex extensively, and I already preferred Codex the model. I didn’t like the harness, but recently pi got good enough to be my daily driver, and I’ve since found that it’s much better than either CC or Codex CLI. It’s OSS, very simple and hackable, and the extension system is really nice. I wouldn’t want to go back to Claude Code even if I were convinced the model were much better - given t…
What is pi?
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is opencode that much better than Codex / Claude Code for cli tooling that people are prepared forsake[1] Sonnet 4.5/Opus 4.5 and switch to GPT 5.2-codex ? The moat is Sonnet/Opus not Claude Code it can never be a client side app. Cost arbitrage like this is short lived, until the org changes pricing. For example Anthropic could release say an ultra plan at $500-$1000 with these restrictions removed/relaxed that refl…
The combination of Claude Code and models could be a moat of its own; they are able to use RL to make their agent better - tool descriptions, reasoning patterns, etc. Are they doing it? No idea, it sounds ridiculously expensive; but they did buy Bun, maybe to facilitate integrating around CC. Cowork, as an example, uses CC almost as an infrastructure layer, and the Claude Agent SDK is basically LiteLLM for your Max s…
> I am really surprised to see people cancelling their Max subscriptions; it looks performative and I suspect many are not being honest.
Why do you think I'm not being honest? What am I supposedly not being honest about?
Re: Anthropic Explicitly Blocking OpenCode
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you suggesting Anthropic has a “duty to deal” with anyone who is trying to build competitive products to Claude Code, beyond access to their priced API? I don’t think so. Especially not to a product that’s been breaking ToS.
No, but I think they should. Or anti-trust was enforced through some other means. Or at all really. Citing the ToS is circular logic. They set the terms and can change them whenever they want!
A regulatory duty to deal is the opposite of setting your own terms. Yes, citing a ToS is acceptable in this scenario. We can throw ToS out if we all believed in duty to deal.