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Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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One of these times they will be right and you will never hear the end of the time they were first to recognize the start of a cyberattack.

You know what they say about a stopped clock: it's wrong 1,438 times a day.

better odds than the lottery!

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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It works both ways, a lot of people also take the "nothing ever happens" position and it is true that most of the time "nothing ever happens", so by taking that position, they're right 99% of the time and sound smart

Yes, but the majority opinion is "nothing ever happens" by default for everything, not just tech outages. It's not about sounding smart, but getting ahead of grifters and clout chasers.

Yep I think it started as a reaction against "it's happening!" types and it is a lot less wrong, but it's still wrong.

The truth is things do occasionally happen and we should be prepared, even if most of the time they don't

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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It's also weird that some people here in the office on Verizon work fine, and others are on SOS. No correlation between phone versions or hardware that I could deduce. I also see the same on X: https://x.com/CPTholen/status/2011520566159982758

It came up for around 5-10 minutes at 15:00 EST, but is currently still down.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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It's also weird that some people here in the office on Verizon work fine, and others are on SOS. No correlation between phone versions or hardware that I could deduce. I also see the same on X: https://x.com/CPTholen/status/2011520566159982758 It came up for around 5-10 minutes at 15:00 EST, but is currently still down.

My wife and I are on the same Verizon family plan. One of us can be down while the other is fine, then 30 minutes later it's the opposite. It's been like that all day.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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The US would never purposefully cut of it's own communications, right? What would be the tells if that would have happened? And what could the average citizen do to be able to communicate regardless? Might be useful to always have that knowledge around, even if it isn't a personal threat to yourself today.

I think one of the tells might be that all major providers go down, not just one.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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For those who weren't aware: Verizon got a new CEO late last year and laid off 15% of the workforce (15,000 people). This included people working in network, IT and cyber security.

Is there a substantive connection? Like all the doom and gloom after the Twitter layoffs predicting the site would implode and go permanently offline "within a month" which...never happened. It's also ironic in the sense it implies the indignant people were so bad at their jobs they designed and built a system so fragile it would collapse without constant intervention from thousands of individuals. You do realize it'…

Verizon is a traditional for-profit telco. Not some VC funded startup trying to hit a burn rate. Very unlikely they were overstaffed by 15k, sounds more like overzealous cost-cutting to hit a quarterly target.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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The problem with being a nationwide ISP - and Verizon runs mobile phones, fiber and all kinds of other stuff - is that you need lots of hands across the country. A lot of stuff can be done remotely and with automation, but often enough you still need actual physical hands on site, and you can't just say "eh, we'll come around tomorrow, we can't make it there faster".

Also 'Verizon' is not really one company. It is 2. Telco and wireless. Each of those is a mashup of dozens of other phone companies VZ gobbled up over the years. With tech stacks going back decades. At one point while I worked there about 10 years ago they were running the 56k dialup for AOL. They also run a decent amount of stores. They are not going to automate a retail store in the same way you would amazon. You h…

Are amazon stores automated? I have Amazon fresh store next to me, they have the smart grocery carts that no one uses because they are overly finicky. They have same number of employees as other grocery stores.
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