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Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Windows 11 is fast enough if you... disable a million things on it that >99% of users wouldn't know when/how to, or wouldn't want to. Definitely depressing.

What's the point when they will be all silently re-enabled by the update application?

I mean, the point is to make it usable. You can set up scheduled tasks where needed. I haven't had to re-disable stuff after that, but I've jumped through a lot more initial hoops than most people are willing to.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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to be fair windows 11 is the most secure windows ever created, the amount of random checks it has is astonishing. Unfortunately it gets undermined by poor driver code from third-parties, much less of a problem with hyper-v based security, but still a huge problem. Obviously all these security features cost performance and something that linux and macos can live without since they generally do not have closed source d…

Random checks?

For the random battery fires and explosions.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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Slowest is unfortunately not even the worst problem of Win11. I just want an OS that helps me control my computers and be productive, not one that "mines" me to sell me to be exploited. While I have been using various Linux flavors for my servers, my desktop has been Windows for decades. Microsoft's charade with Win11 has me committed to moving to desktop Linux in 2026. There will be pain, but they crossed a line.

And every update makes it more difficult to disable web search on the start menu and using local only accounts.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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The last time this subject came up someone in the thread jumped up to explain to me how Windows 11 has all these great new features that make it worth being many times less performant. Every feature they listed was some anti-consumer thing that only a corporate customer would ever care about or want. Every single one. What I learned is that Windows 11 is great for the customer, I'm just not the customer. I'm just the…

- TPM 2.0 requirement - Secure Boot enforcement - Microsoft account requirement - BitLocker device encryption tied to MS account - Hardware attestation - Telemetry/Data Collection - Extensive diagnostic data collection - Advertising ID tracking - Activity history syncing - Bing integration everywhere - Edge as persistent default (difficult to change) - OneDrive integration/nagging - Microsoft 365 upselling - Copilot…

Forcing OneDrive :/

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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That makes little sense, notepad.exe already exists. The only development required on it would be to add AI shit to it. They could just leave it alone.

That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++. Your expensive senior and staff level devs are on more important projects. Make it a web app and your cheap entry level grads can do it.

Shouldn’t the AI technology that Microsoft is spending billions on make this trivial?

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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macOS has Cocoa since 2000, which is still useable, and SwiftUI since a few years. No comparison to the mess of UI toolkits on Windows.

And what about Carbon? Gone. 32-bit apps? Gone. PowerPC stuff? Anything more than a few years old? Forget it. You can't even run versions of iPhoto or iTunes after they deliberately broke them and replaced them with objectively shittier equivalents. Their own apps! Windows can still run programs from the 90s unmodified. There are VB6 apps from 1998 talking to Access databases still running small businesses today. Can…

Is that a good or bad thing? Yes, Mac chops off legacy after a decade or so, but I don’t see not being able to run apps from the 90s as a problem (or if I did, I’d probably be running windows or Linux instead of Mac OS).

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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I'm now even using wine & proton for it. Thanks to Valve only very few games don't work. And it's not that i don't like windows, it is just too damn slow for me. And no. I do not want to upgrade my gear every 2 years or so

All the games that "don't work" are the games that PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAY! It's always hardcore multiplayer games with the actual crowd. Using linux for gaming is a great way to continue down the path to becoming a recluse.

I play Helldivers 2 on Linux, and there are TONS of people playing.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

#129

Can we go back to Windows 7 yet?

If you have to use windows, 10 LTSC IOT version has support until 2032, and you can remove most of the bloat.

Iirc only businesses can buy that and you cannot upgrade hardware.

Re: Microsoft May Have Created the Slowest Windows in 25 Years with Windows 11

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That makes little sense, notepad.exe already exists. The only development required on it would be to add AI shit to it. They could just leave it alone.

That means you have to work on the original code, and modern entry-mid level devs can't do that. It's probably in C++. Your expensive senior and staff level devs are on more important projects. Make it a web app and your cheap entry level grads can do it.

Notepad was basically the "Hello world" of win32 apps. A kid in highschool could have "maintained" it.
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