I’m surprised how many places in the world measure rain in percentage chance. Must be a metropolitan concept. Here in Denmark, weather reports estimate mm/hr - the amount of rain. Maybe it’s our agricultural inheritance?
Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
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Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#122It's amazing to me that nobody has been able to match their UX (Apple in particular - how did they fumble the acquisition so badly?). The Weather Channel by most accounts has the best model but one of the worst websites of all time. live.xweather.com (formerly Aeris) is kind of close, but is basically an ad for their API/commercial subscriptions and not really built for day-to-day use. Some of the open source clones…
I don’t know if Carrot can use Apple Weather as a source on Android. Also it seems like the Android version is not in active development.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
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#124Dark Sky was a marvel, and when it first came out, its ability to say rain will start where you are in 2-3 minutes was a marvel. The information design argument is 100% valid, but I also marvel that, having bought the company, Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate. I don't know whether Apple's privacy focus prevents them making the same precise predictions, or if there is some other reason they don't…
> Apple's weather app still isn't as precise or accurate Is it not? The rainfall-per-minute over the next hour on iOS seems about the same accuracy as Dark Sky had -- I used Dark Sky for years. It wasn't perfect but it worked well enough, same as iOS did after. You can even scrub the precipitation map predictions and they look the same to me. I know the Dark Sky prediction accuracy was greatly dependent on where you…
That said, I'd still bet a dollar (that to be fair, I might lose) that Apple today is less accurate, and if they're just as accurate twelve years on, that's a fail as well.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#125fwiw, on iOS, I like using WeatherGraph: https://weathergraph.app/ The developer is very responsive, lots of UI customization (both app and widgets) is possible, and pricing is reasonable.
I just downloaded it to try it out after seeing it in a few comments. While some of the visualizations seem like ones I could get used to and like, the radar is severely lacking. I use radar a lot and DarkSky’s view was amazing and just fun to play with. Weather Graph has it buried at the bottom and just loads up weather.gov. It’s hard to justify paying a premium with radar feeling pretty ignored. His website mention…
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#126Can someone explain why the main screen in iOS weather, below the current temperature, shows the high temperature to the left of the low temperature? In all other places in the app, the low is to the left of high.
Even worse: why do they use high/low based on calendar date rather than daily high and overnight low. During a cold snap one cold night will show up as the low for two consecutive days instead of a single “overnight”
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
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The Apple Weather app absolutely sucks. I have learned to ignore its predictions. It will say that it's sunny outside, and I'll look out the window, and we're having a hailstorm.
Can anyone recommend a good app to replace it? No ads, lightweight etc.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#128The Apple Weather app has gotten better over time, though it’s still not a perfect replacement. Scrolling through the Dark Sky screenshots, I can recognize many of the same things now incorporated with Apple’s. And Apple does offer location specific notifications of rain which I find to be pretty accurate, about as accurate as Dark Sky. There’s largely a perception problem with Apple. People loved Dark Sky as an inde…
Interesting, I think it's gotten worse over time. Even basics like what the temperature will be in a few days. It's consistently ~5+ degrees off on the low side.
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
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I paid for it and got nothing at all. I don't remember if the app quit working or if Apple force removed it from my phone.I felt absolutely scammed - it's literally the only app I've ever paid for. It really sucks. Do they use the same data? I've noticed Apple Weather is substantially less accurate than Dark Sky. If Dark Sky told me it was going to rain in 10 minutes for 7 minutes, that's what was going to happen. If…
DarkSky seemed to have their own weather service (not sure the source data), but they had their own API that other apps used. Apple shut the API down after a couple years. This meant the death of the DarkSky website and the old apps. Apple says they use data from the weather channel, but this varies based on country. It used to say right in the app, but it seems like they removed that in favor of this link: https://s…
Re: Eulogy for Dark Sky, a data visualization masterpiece (2023)
#130I thought we lived in the age of infinite AI software and you could just ask for a Dark Sky clone. Weather APIs are pretty open. What's stopping you?