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ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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She can be both, she will become lots of things over time depending on agenda. Her background was decidedly under-reported, for a few justifications, including preventing a preferred audience from sympathizing with the victim. Not sure what your point is other than volume of information available increases over time.

You do have a point. My point is that we are constantly a part of informational warfare and it is getting old. I would love nothing more than people to look at it all with a cold eye and say something akin to: oh, I recognize this pattern. Instead, I attempts of various power centers to frame it in a way beneficial to them. Some of us are rather tired of this.

But why is your own framing exempt from the analysis? The idea that you should see a murder and "look at it all with a cold eye", to try and dispassionately understand whether it might have been justified, is a non-obvious idea that's quite advantageous to power centers that expect to be shooting people frequently.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Any tips on how to avoid this? I suppose those tin foil signal blockers might be useful?

Not use any device that has GSM/LTE, or Bluetooth. Alternatively, broadcast a hidden SSID WiFi AP via an enabled RPi and use only devices that's have WiFi. Hand them out to people for free to increase the spread. Attach magnets to the RPi's and go rogue by sticking them to buses, cars and trains et cetera to increase range.

> a hidden SSID WiFi

Don't do this!

The BSSID is still visible, and is the unique identifier any trackers will be looking for anyway. Also making the SSID hidden just means the AP isn't broadcasting it, any listeners can still see the SSID whenever any client interacts with the AP.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Hate to break it to you, but people just simply dont care as much as you think they do. We have the right to own firearms for the purposes of protecting us against tyrany, but thats pointless when we cant even realize tyrany right outside our door.

This shows how flawed the idea is that individual gun ownership protects people from a rogue government. Acting alone with a firearm does not stop tyranny. It only leads to prison or worse. Real resistance to authoritarianism has never come from isolated individuals using violence. It requires organized collective action where people stand together and refuse to comply. History shows that meaningful resistance often…

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

#126

Why isn't any one independently using this same information to track ICE officers? I'm sure they all carry phones.

There have been isolated cases of protestors using Grindr and other location-based apps to highlight ERO agents in enforcement areas.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

#127

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All it took was a white mother (and US citizen) getting shot in broad daylight. As much as I hate to admit it, a large enough segment of the population needed something blatant like this to care.

Video analysis is depressing: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis...

I wonder what conclusion the FBI's investigation will come to because it sure doesn't look good for ICE to me. Best case, those two agents get sentenced to life for murder but the damage is done and a life taken. If the officer fired two shots and she died at the scene then it seems reasonable to me the bullets didn't go through the windshield and, instead, went through her rolled down window while she was turning away from the officer. If that's the case then I'm predicting riots everywhere over the next couple weeks.

// i know pretty much zero details of what happened and it will be impossible to get any actual facts that are not politicized for weeks

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Basically: if it has a modem in it, it can be used against you in some way. Phones, routers, cars, public signs, cameras. It's been so turbulent lately, that it's hard to register events that would have blown our minds if so many things didn't also happen around the same time. Remember when Israel made a bunch of pagers explode indiscriminately across Lebanon and Syria? So many things going on, one worse than the oth…

Its important to not be hyperbolic in these times. The two technologies ICE uses rely on permission for apps tonuse geolocation data for advertising purposes. Same reason you start seeing ads for local things when you travel. Technically they can subpoena cell records to see which towers your phone connects to, but this is not viable for multiple people. For privacy, if you care, having a rooted degoogled phone with…

> phone with no sim card is sufficient enough

It's most certainly not. Phones connect to a cell tower even without a SIM to make emergency calls. The phone can still be tracked and it's not a difficult leap from there to identify the owner of the phone.

Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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Immigration can be enforced without murdering, gassing and viciously assaulting bystanders. Never mind the violations of human rights (like sending deportees to hellholes like CECOT), lying about citizen observers and continually having lawsuits tossed by grand juries. It's a rogue agency with no accountability that will continue to cause untold harm while making everyone less safe.

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Re: ICE's Tool to Monitor Phones in Neighborhoods

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post #59

M.I.A.'s clothing brand is looking real good now. There are others but hers was the first I heard about. Seems like the waist bag would be critical for activists. From the Ohmni website: "...fabric's work by utilizing the principles of a Faraday cage to block or shield against electrical signals, electromagnetic radiation (EMR), and radio frequency interference (RFI)."

>"[...] fabric's work by utilizing the principles of a Faraday cage to block or shield against electrical signals, electromagnetic radiation (EMR), and radio frequency interference (RFI)." But what's the point of bringing a phone at this point? Other comments mentioned valid points about tradeoffs of using an offline camera vs. a phone, with pro-phone arguments listing things like "being able to livestream and get th…

> But what's the point of bringing a phone at this point?

Really??

You can take it out of your pocket and use it to communicate.

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