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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by perching_aix »

WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #79
TechSquidTV wrote: post #32

Government enacted shut down due to protests. I'd like to hear more about how they actually do this. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-cutting-internet-amid-dead...

> Government enacted shut down due to protests Not just protests, it's to prevent foreign interference (like CIA) from fueling civil unrest and spreading AI deepfakes, as seen in Myanmar and Brazil https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

I gave this a skim and a keyword search. Note that I'm not familiar with the matter.

The article claims that the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar that kicked off in 2017 has been substantively fueled by Facebook propaganda efforts, with strong links to Myanmar's own "security forces" (military).

> it's to prevent foreign interference (like CIA) from fueling civil unrest and spreading AI deepfakes, as seen in Myanmar and Brazil

In contrast then, you seem to allege that it was actually a foreign interference campaign by the CIA? Or am I misunderstanding what you're proposing?

Because if I'm not, I fail to see how what you linked supports that at all. Even your mention of deepfakes seems very questionable, as those haven't been a thing until late 2017, by which point this cleansing effort was already long underway. I further see that the US has formally condemned these events, although of course that does not rule out involvement.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by helloaltalt »

falaki wrote: post #108
helloaltalt wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They must be smuggled inside the country and the dictatorship can say anything they want and charge if they get caught so they must be very few in numbers I don't know too much about starlink but is there a way that someone can pay for other person's usage and then build a starlink receiver or something from spare parts or like easy accesible parts from the world? Because how would people get starlink device. I dont…

Yes, there are NGOs and organizations that sponsor these and pay for them. Here is an example: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cyrusfarivar/2024/12/18/inside-...

Forbes asking me to pay

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here's an web.archive.org link if anyone's interested which works

https://web.archive.org/web/20250301050041/https://www.forbe...

Edit: WTF forbes still gives me a popup even in archive, strange, but its less restrictive overall in the web archive version so I am able to still copy and read the version

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by flotzam »

helloaltalt wrote: post #112

Quick question but would tor work in this case? Is this the first country which genuinely effectively is able to ban tor? Because even in China, tor can work through bridges or some other methods and even Chinese firewalls aren't so extreme as iran right now. Edit: forgot that north korea exists so I guess the second country but even in north korea there was this chinese interviewer or japanese interviewer who contac…

Tor can reach IPv6 destinations through IPv4 entry nodes, if that's what your asking.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by petre »

helloaltalt wrote: post #97
petre wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Black market. We had satellite dishes in Eastern Europe during communism. Bribe some people, shell out some insane amounts of cash and it can be done.

If black market's the only reason that activism/journalism/outside contact is even possible in the country It doesn't seem much of a plan (very sadly, I wish there was) which could be uncensored that much, some other comment pointed this point too but if black market's the case, then they would just hide whoever is using this They would also most likely be very less in amount, journalists etc. But the average person,…

Stop worrying. You don't have to liberate everyone. The Iranian regime will screw itself up by attacking Israel.

It's usually smuggled parts if they're small enough. Someone outside of the country usually makes the subscription and they get paid somehow.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by rnhmjoj »

sigmonsays wrote: post #77
uyzstvqs wrote: post #37

Can't wait for a certain dictator to get a cellmate, so that our Persian and Kurdish friends can have freedom, including free unrestricted internet access. And for fellow HN users from there, here's some great stuff: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://bitchat.free/

how does Yggdrasil work if ipv6 is dead?

Yggdrasil uses exclusively IPv6 for routing on its own overlay network, but not on the Internet. See https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/faq.html#does-yggdrasil-...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by jrochkind1 »

I remember reading about how Venezuela had an internet blackout preceding US attack, presumably the blackout was an attack by US "cyber". Ah, here we are. https://securitybrief.co.uk/story/us-cyber-attack-on-venezue...

The discussion here assumes that the Iranian government is responsible for this blackout. I actually don't understand enough about network routing to undestand the OP dashboard linked to or be able to answer this question, but could it instead be the work of an opponent preparing to attack Iran?

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by maxall4 »

helloaltalt wrote: post #73
GaggiX wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are almost completely inaccessible to the average Iranian. A friend of mine who has come a long way to fight Iranian censorship told me that they essentially don't exist.

They must be smuggled inside the country and the dictatorship can say anything they want and charge if they get caught so they must be very few in numbers I don't know too much about starlink but is there a way that someone can pay for other person's usage and then build a starlink receiver or something from spare parts or like easy accesible parts from the world? Because how would people get starlink device. I dont…

Starlink receivers are actually very complicated. They make use of a bunch of high-end FPGAs and a bunch of other expensive and uncommon components. See this teardown: https://youtu.be/h6MfM8EFkGg?si=m-sN6UW4nh8_HzPR.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by irusensei »

ithkuil wrote: post #100
daedrdev wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow its so nice this excuse just happens to shut down the internet when an astronomically unpopular regime faces vast protests after years of economic and political mismanagement

Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

These people treat geopolitics as if they are watching an avengers movie.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by cramsession »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #126

I remember reading about how Venezuela had an internet blackout preceding US attack, presumably the blackout was an attack by US "cyber". Ah, here we are. https://securitybrief.co.uk/story/us-cyber-attack-on-venezue... The discussion here assumes that the Iranian government is responsible for this blackout. I actually don't understand enough about network routing to undestand the OP dashboard linked to or be able to…

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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Post by pc86 »

almosthere wrote: post #83
EthanHeilman wrote: post #60

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Yes, but it is more difficult than jamming a typical radio antenna because the starlink uses a directed beam rather than a omnidirectional radio broadcast. This either requires enormous amounts of power, targeting the satellite itself with a directed radio beam, or getting between the satellite and the ground station by bouncing a signal off the ionosphere. The above is for jamming directed beams in general. It is li…

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