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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by mgh2 »

delecti wrote: post #75

I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

How would you carry it on a laptop sized backpack? Too many pieces facilitates breaking with long term handling, the form factor seems weird.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by musicale »

HN, I find your lack of faith disturbing.

HP (ink.) has followed Raspberry Pi with a riff on the form factor of the ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64, and other keyboard computer designs of the 1970s and 1980s.

But with a (possibly) better keyboard and 1000x (or more) the computing power of a comparable Sinclair system.

It's like a disaggregated laptop that you can plug any USB screen into (or go old-school and plug it into a TV with appropriate cable or adapter.)

This is a beautiful thing that should be encouraged. And I'm sure you can run Linux on it (or maybe DOS - I think some HP "no OS" systems ship with FreeDOS) and boot directly into a C64 or Spectrum emulator (or into Python, BASIC, or whatever environment you prefer.)

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by musicale »

delecti wrote: post #75

I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

I agree completely. It's a cool product that has plausible use cases beyond hobbyists who might just want a retro-style keyboard computer. It might not be successful at $1000, but I have to applaud HP for thinking inside the box.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by musicale »

mgh2 wrote: post #121
delecti wrote: post #75

I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

How would you carry it on a laptop sized backpack? Too many pieces facilitates breaking with long term handling, the form factor seems weird.

I think there could be a protective carrying case for it. It would also be cool if it could plug into an iPad to create an x86-iPad-keyboard chimera.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by bilekas »

toyg wrote: post #106
bilekas wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Windows11 making it hard to create a local account is a separate topic. Hard is a generous take. They litterally removed their offline phone mode. > You don't need apple account if you are fine with not using half the features listed in the marketing page for apple hardware. Can you name the hardware features? Because Apple take the approach of opt-in in my experience. And don't get me wrong.. I'm adamantly pro cho…

> They litterally removed their offline phone mode. https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/s/ifseb3L17G > buy a notebook. Install the os. Nice airgapped system to test with. Whereas Microsoft provides testing images, so you don't need to kill the planet just to test if a link really looks blue. Why are you trying so hard to apologise for one of the worst corporations in the world? They are all bad and they all want the sa…

> They are all bad and they all want the same things from you.

I actually do agree with you on this, but my level of acceptance draws a line in the sand and where Microsoft has gone is past it. No, Apple is no Saint but these days there's no harm in pointing out the difference.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by tonymet »

mgh2 wrote: post #121
delecti wrote: post #75

I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

How would you carry it on a laptop sized backpack? Too many pieces facilitates breaking with long term handling, the form factor seems weird.

in a case like a Switch

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by tonymet »

bilekas wrote: post #18

> Launch Microsoft Copilot in Windows with a touch of the Copilot key,4 to write content, analyze data, and stay organized. Oh thank goodness. This whole product idea is further trying to gatekeep computing hardware. You will pay a cloud subscription to perform anything remotely computationally taxing.

we've had windows keys on keyboards for ~35 years it's never interfered with linux

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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Post by wolrah »

toyg wrote: post #107
wolrah wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> great for kiosks and shared workstations. Absolutely not. For a kiosk, I want everything the user is touching to be effectively disposable. Keyboards and mice are cheap and trivial to replace, this design integrates the most important part of the system in to one of the easiest parts to damage/steal. It's possibly the worst way to do a kiosk. For a shared workstation, likewise if I'm the user I want to be able to b…

> Perhaps if it were a nice mechanical board with swappable keyswitches Are you serious? 99% of computer users don't even know those words.

99% of computer users don't know any of the words that mean a computer is good.

Those of us who do still want to have the good things if we're stuck with it being a permanent part of the machine.

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