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ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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plagiarist wrote: post #17
imoverclocked wrote: post #9

> the agency has greenlighted a contract for a tool that can scan subjects’ irises Where does the initial iris data come from? Is this actually collected now?

Probably from the airport scanners and cameras I see everyone gleefully sticking their faces in. A savings of several minutes per flight!

The normal TSA pre-check lines make you scan your face too. They used to read "images are deleted after use" but I didn't notice that message last time I went through security. So likely it's being used by ICE now.

The customs line have been doing much more rigorous face scanning for a while now.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

ikekkdcjkfke wrote: post #25
rootsudo wrote: post #7

It’s not just facial it’s also gait recognition too.

Mostly gait probably. I wonder if there are any hacker techniques to scramble gait, like putting wooden planks or plastic parts inside clothes

does rock in shoe work? That's the only way i've heard

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

15155 wrote: post #101
R_D_Olivaw wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guy, stop with this false point. You're smarter than this. Deep down you know it's not true and it's not being used this way. Clean yourself and your soul.

What about it is false? - Illegal immigrants make the choice to come to the United States for financial enrichment: jobs, handouts. Are you disputing this? - The United States has a notoriously weak social safety net relative to other countries: this is not a disputed fact. - We do not have an unlimited amount of resources: sorry, this is reality, not socialist fantasyland. - Most US citizens do not cover their overa…

They pay into social security when they have a job just like anyone else.

If it's weak social safety net then why would the immigrants choose this country for financial benefit? You're contradicting yourself right in the next bullet point.

They came here for the American Dream, which is about finding a new life free from oppression against all odds. It's what this country is built on. There's nothing more patriotic than welcoming the oppressed with open arms and helping them build a new life. It's what happened when your ancestors came to this country.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

15155 wrote: post #86
expedition32 wrote: post #79

It's not the technology. The American people voted for this. That is the real discussion you should have. Why do Americans want fascism?

> Why do Americans want fascism? Americans don't want to expend their tax dollars on folks willing to break the law for financial gain.

the last election speaks otherwise

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

15155 wrote: post #99
R_D_Olivaw wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All his replies in this thread are this false kneejerk boomerism. Sad, sick people. No empathy. No heart.

"No empathy" - how about not wanting to fund criminal enterprises using the tax dollars of hard-working Americans? Who has empathy for them - the people financing this "charity?" Why is importing unskilled foreigners the hill to die on?

not all foreigners are unskilled

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by 15155 »

bakies wrote: post #125
15155 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No empathy" - how about not wanting to fund criminal enterprises using the tax dollars of hard-working Americans? Who has empathy for them - the people financing this "charity?" Why is importing unskilled foreigners the hill to die on?

not all foreigners are unskilled

How many engineers and doctors are wading across the Rio Grande?

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by 15155 »

bakies wrote: post #123
15155 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about it is false? - Illegal immigrants make the choice to come to the United States for financial enrichment: jobs, handouts. Are you disputing this? - The United States has a notoriously weak social safety net relative to other countries: this is not a disputed fact. - We do not have an unlimited amount of resources: sorry, this is reality, not socialist fantasyland. - Most US citizens do not cover their overa…

They pay into social security when they have a job just like anyone else. If it's weak social safety net then why would the immigrants choose this country for financial benefit? You're contradicting yourself right in the next bullet point. They came here for the American Dream, which is about finding a new life free from oppression against all odds. It's what this country is built on. There's nothing more patriotic t…

> They pay into social security when they have a job just like anyone else.

Really? None are paid under the table? Who pays their ER bills when they break their arm while performing illegal farm labor, for instance?

> If it's weak social safety net then why would the immigrants choose this country for financial benefit? You're contradicting yourself right in the next bullet point.

Because it's better than from wherever they came? These goals aren't incompatible. Jobs are reason enough, free shit is icing on the cake.

> They came here for the American Dream,

Breaking the law in the process, and pissing on everyone who bothered to obtain it legally.

> It's what happened when your ancestors came to this country.

My ancestors weren't given free shit upon arrival - you can have a welfare system or open borders, not both.

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by bakies »

15155 wrote: post #126
bakies wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not all foreigners are unskilled

How many engineers and doctors are wading across the Rio Grande?

How many of these supposedly "gang banger illegal immigrants" being detained by ICE are here legally and not criminals?

Re: ICE is using facial-recognition technology to quickly arrest people

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Post by 15155 »

bakies wrote: post #129
15155 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many engineers and doctors are wading across the Rio Grande?

How many of these supposedly "gang banger illegal immigrants" being detained by ICE are here legally and not criminals?

I don't really care, and this isn't a valid retort.

Why should some be allowed to skip the line? If they are skilled, H-1B, O-1, etc. visas should be obtainable.

There's no implicit right to migrate wherever one chooses regardless of the laws of that country, sorry!

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