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Children and Helical Time

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Post by rr808 »

sokoloff wrote: post #33
rr808 wrote: post #29

My kids go to a stem focused magnet school. I realize different cultures value different things but its depressing to me how many kids are pushed to dedicate their whole childhood to get into top Universities. We'd go to the beach and their friends couldn't come because they were doing extra APs or science fair or Math Olympics or similar. These kids got good grades but never went on a date, couldn't drive or go anyw…

I was partially (largely?) one of those other kids. Honestly, I loved it and, though it wasn’t perfect, I definitely wouldn’t re-roll my childhood if given the chance. Later in life, I managed to catch up in dating and other aspects, but kept a good streak of nerd pride and am totally happy about that. If you were to have observed my childhood and got depressed about it, that interpretation would have been misguided.

Yeah you're right, I was a pretty geeky teenager myself. Its a tough winner takes all world, maybe working your ass off in HS is a good strategy that I messed up.

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Post by marginalia_nu »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #62
KellyCriterion wrote: post #53

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Oh, my dear, thats hell! > I've also had a bad tooth ache since the day before Christmas Wasnt there any emergency dentist available? In my location, there are those for these reasons.

So, short story long: Things weren't that bad before and during Christmas, but started getting bad last Friday. So last Saturday I paid a visit to an emergency dentist, who basically shrugged and said come back on Monday when we have more staff. Sunday sucked I was just in pain all day. But said and done, I came back on Monday, they looked at it again, said it was probably an old filling that was maybe acting up, bas…

Update in case someone somehow got hooked learning about my dentistry adventures. Tooth is now removed. That hurt too. But now the lil' fucker is in the medical waste bin.

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Post by bombcar »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #84
bombcar wrote: post #82

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This is something more dangerous that people realize, especially those “working for retirement” - if you only live to work, and then retire, you may find you retire from living, too. Seen it a few too many times. Live life today, people! “ So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own. Today’s trouble is enough for today.” “ And don't worry 'bout tomorrow, hey Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for…

That’s fine, but the incongruence comes when one expects unlimited supply of healthcare and a cash payment for decades in old age. Especially if one didn’t raise enough productive kids to pay for it, so then the question becomes if you’re not planning for tomorrow, why are others who are planning for tomorrow paying for your tomorrow?

As the other comment pointed out; living for today doesn’t mean NOT planning for the future.

The key is not assuming that some future date will bring happiness - that is something that has to be found each day.

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Post by tagami »

WillAdams wrote: post #65

It's a perception thing --- a given period of time is related to one's total life experience/recent memory --- to a toddler, a week is a long time because at that age one cannot remember many weeks and the weeks which one remembers are full of new experiences each of which is vivid and fresh, while to a person in middle age, there are many, many weeks accumulated into many repeated years, and the experiences are much…

What school district was this in Mississippi? This sounds like a fabulous way to engage learners.

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Post by WillAdams »

tagami wrote: post #124
WillAdams wrote: post #65

It's a perception thing --- a given period of time is related to one's total life experience/recent memory --- to a toddler, a week is a long time because at that age one cannot remember many weeks and the weeks which one remembers are full of new experiences each of which is vivid and fresh, while to a person in middle age, there are many, many weeks accumulated into many repeated years, and the experiences are much…

What school district was this in Mississippi? This sounds like a fabulous way to engage learners.

It was a system near an Air Force Base funded with DoD moneys --- apparently the base has since closed and the funding went away, and the school system is no longer operated thus or some such.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

This sounds like the article of a person who gave up on life after their 20s. Stopped engaging in hobbies, traveling to new places, learning new skills, concepts, meeting new people. Yes, life is probably very boring if you essentially run it on autopilot and avoid change.

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Post by egypturnash »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #95
egypturnash wrote: post #87

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Art can turn into work too. Spending ~4-5y on a solo graphic novel[1] was mostly about finding that routine of making sure to spend a few hours of every workday working on the comic instead of just faffing about aimlessly. 1: http://egypt.urnash.com/rita/

What gave you the idea to write a graphic novel in the first place? What's your workflow?

I'm an artist and telling a story is a fun way to give structure to the eternal question of "what do I draw next".

Sometimes the art comes first, sometimes the words come first, ultimately they all end up with a rough draft of both in an Adobe Illustrator file that gets refined into a final page, and then I make another file in the same directory, and another, and another, and another, until there's enough to be worth considering printing a book. Sometimes I realize I just have to sit down and figure out what the next hundred pages are gonna be shaped like before I can go back to worrying about what this chapter's gonna be shaped like, or what the current page needs to do. Really it's the same shape as any creative process: make a quick, messy version, ask yourself what's the easiest/most obvious thing to do to make it better, repeat that step until you're satisfied with it and/or the deadline hits.

An important part of the process is also directing interested people to my crowdfunding (https://comradery.co/egypturnash, https://www.patreon.com/egypturnash) so I can afford to keep drawing pages instead of seeking other work. :)

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Post by wolvesechoes »

nchmy wrote: post #108
wolvesechoes wrote: post #105

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The metaphors of camel, lion and child have nothing to do with finding joy, experiencing life, or whatever that could matter in the context of this posting, and Joseph Campbell is pretty weak resource on Nietzsche.

No, it has everything to do with it all - particularly becoming a child again, rather than living via your children, who will eventually no longer be children and then leave you. As for campbell, he studied him plenty and even curated a "portable jung" compendium. Moreover, his description of the camel, lion, child (from, at the very least, Zarathustra) is exceedingly accurate. You're really out of your depth

> You're really out of your depth

Quite funny from someone suggesting that being very into Jungian thought gives you some credibility when it comes down to Nietzsche.

> particularly becoming a child again, rather than living via your children, who will eventually no longer be children and then leave you.

Please, just go and read the original. It should make it clear for you. For now your "interpretation" of Nietzsche is equivalent to New Age take on Buddhism.

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