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Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by natebc »

Skyy93 wrote: post #52
cwmoore wrote: post #43

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When you bought a game and it becomes unavailable, due to delisting, you care. It shows a general problem we have with online license's for movies, series and games. You buy the product and at some point later in time you loose access because something changed outside of your control. This is different from VHS/CD/DVD/BluRays where I can use the product even years after purchasing, despite a company loosing the licen…

FWIW Delisting in this context is just removing it from the store for purchase. It doesn't remove it from your library, nor remove your ability to download it.

Your concerns for digital licenses are totally valid but his specific topic isn't that.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by expedition32 »

hakfoo wrote: post #105
voidfunc wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you call something a Porsche, John Deere, or a Sig Sauer and inaccurately represent it you're doing brand damage especially in the modern era where it could become a toxic meme on TikTok or whatever. That's no good and should be prevented. Developers could pony up for perpetual licenses if they cared but they don't.

I was under the impression that most gameplay scenarios are positive exposure for real-world brands. The kid who spends 500 hours of his childhood driving around specific cars in games is developing brand preferences before he ever steps foot in a dealership. A smart brand would be eager to undercut their competitors for licensing-- even to the point of giving them away free, assuming the negotiate positive brand exp…

I definitely agree with you but lawyers don't do common sense.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by LorenDB »

bananaboy wrote: post #82
LorenDB wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The nice move in this scenario would have been to make the game free instead of delisting. Gamers can still enjoy it, and you don't have to worry about income once the company is closed.

It actually is free on itch.io, and people on steam who bought it still have access to it. Keeping it on steam required us to maintain our company registration which we didn’t want to do since it’s a waste of money and time as we weren’t planning on doing anything more with it.

Ah, that makes sense.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by rigrassm »

embedding-shape wrote: post #61
reddalo wrote: post #46

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+1 for Blur, great game, it's like Super Mario Kart for grown-ups. Too bad the only way to get it is by pirating it. But in these situations, doesn't piracy become morally acceptable?

It becomes a moral imperative to pirate it and continue seeding it for others to also acquire, as a mean to help preserving something you cared about, apparently more than the owners of the IP/rights themselves care.

> It becomes a moral imperative to pirate it and continue seeding it for others to also acquire, as a mean to help preserving something you cared about, apparently more than the owners of the IP/rights themselves care.

Your words brought me right back to my teenage years sitting at the family computer at 12am babysitting a couple of song downloads to burn onto a CD for my friends to listen to on the bus ride.

Kinda random and only tangentially related but the thought brought a smile to my face and I just felt like sharing and saying thanks!

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by HNisCIS »

voidfunc wrote: post #96
HNisCIS wrote: post #88

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I despise that licensing is a thing in video games. They're an art form and you should be able to depict whatever you want. I don't care if Porsche, John Deere or Sig Sauer get their feelings hurt because someone made art.

If you call something a Porsche, John Deere, or a Sig Sauer and inaccurately represent it you're doing brand damage especially in the modern era where it could become a toxic meme on TikTok or whatever. That's no good and should be prevented. Developers could pony up for perpetual licenses if they cared but they don't.

By that logic you should be charged licensing fees to post a product review online

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by embedding-shape »

rigrassm wrote: post #124
embedding-shape wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It becomes a moral imperative to pirate it and continue seeding it for others to also acquire, as a mean to help preserving something you cared about, apparently more than the owners of the IP/rights themselves care.

> It becomes a moral imperative to pirate it and continue seeding it for others to also acquire, as a mean to help preserving something you cared about, apparently more than the owners of the IP/rights themselves care. Your words brought me right back to my teenage years sitting at the family computer at 12am babysitting a couple of song downloads to burn onto a CD for my friends to listen to on the bus ride. Kinda r…

Heh, I too remember the stress and rush of burning car-listening CDs right before long car trips, trying to set the write speed to slower and slower after each failed attempt, and finally succeeding burning it, only to find out that the car didn't actually have any CD reader at all, and could only do cassette. Waiting for DC++, Kazaa or LimeWire to finish a download only to find out that of course, it's some Britney song instead.

Simpler times for sure, unsure if it was actually better or not though, we certainly aren't as young as we used to be :)

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by [deleted] »

natebc wrote: post #121
Skyy93 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you bought a game and it becomes unavailable, due to delisting, you care. It shows a general problem we have with online license's for movies, series and games. You buy the product and at some point later in time you loose access because something changed outside of your control. This is different from VHS/CD/DVD/BluRays where I can use the product even years after purchasing, despite a company loosing the licen…

FWIW Delisting in this context is just removing it from the store for purchase. It doesn't remove it from your library, nor remove your ability to download it. Your concerns for digital licenses are totally valid but his specific topic isn't that.

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Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by variadix »

ivolimmen wrote: post #18

I loved Blacklight Retribution. It's been so long delisted that my most unique achievements from it disappeared from my profile. One was 0.01% of all players.

There is a fan project that has revived the servers. It’s hard to get full matches but can still be played at least. It’s called BLRevive, there’s a Discord for it. IMO the only bad thing is it’s based on the post-PS4 update where the devs console-fied the game.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by Y_Y »

voidfunc wrote: post #96
HNisCIS wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I despise that licensing is a thing in video games. They're an art form and you should be able to depict whatever you want. I don't care if Porsche, John Deere or Sig Sauer get their feelings hurt because someone made art.

If you call something a Porsche, John Deere, or a Sig Sauer and inaccurately represent it you're doing brand damage especially in the modern era where it could become a toxic meme on TikTok or whatever. That's no good and should be prevented. Developers could pony up for perpetual licenses if they cared but they don't.

#+ BEGIN_ART

Here's my John Deere™ tractor:

   _____
   |o  |   !
   |:`_|---'-.
   '_'.-JD--.|
  '._.'     (-)
It's a heap of shit, overpriced and unrepairable. It smells like farts, but does have a sweet green paintjob.

#+ END_ART

Should I have asked the corpos for a license before exhibiting my art?

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