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My guess is that including timestamps in messages to the LLM will bias the LLMs responses in material ways, and ways they don't want, and showing timestamps to users but not the LLM will create confusion when the user assumes the LLM is aware of them but it isn't. So the simple product management decision was to just leave them out.
ChatGPT to this day does not have a single simplest feature -- fork chat from message. That's the thing even the most barebones open-source wrappers had since 2022. Probably even before because ERP stuff people played with predates chatgpt by like two years (even if it was very simple). Gemini btw too.
It does https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1963697012014215181?lang=e...
Though I'm not sure if they did not sneak it as some part of AB-test because the last time I did check was in october and I'm pretty sure it was not there.
ChatGPT to this day does not have a single simplest feature -- fork chat from message. That's the thing even the most barebones open-source wrappers had since 2022. Probably even before because ERP stuff people played with predates chatgpt by like two years (even if it was very simple). Gemini btw too.
You can click the three dots on any response and click "Branch in new chat". Not sure when it was added but it exists.
I built a single page website that copies the current time to my clipboard and I paste it into my messages. It's inconvenient and I don't do it irregularly. I'll have to look into the extension described in the link. Thank you for sharing. It's nice to know it's a shared problem.
My guess is that including timestamps in messages to the LLM will bias the LLMs responses in material ways, and ways they don't want, and showing timestamps to users but not the LLM will create confusion when the user assumes the LLM is aware of them but it isn't. So the simple product management decision was to just leave them out.
The only (silly) reason I can think of is that a non trivial number of people copy pasta directly from chatgpt responses and having the timestamp there would be annoying.
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It does https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1963697012014215181?lang=e...
Well apparently 3 years later they did a thing. I asked about it so many times I didn't even bother to check if they added it. Though I'm not sure if they did not sneak it as some part of AB-test because the last time I did check was in october and I'm pretty sure it was not there.
You only need that info if you know you need it in your rag. Over the last two years of usage I don't recall where I'd need those timestamps but I know there are cases. Still, this would have to be an option because otherwise it would be waste of tokens. However, we have to consider they are competing for the quality AND length of the response even if a shorter response is better. There's a pretzel of considerations…
Imagine you started having back pain months ago and you remember asking ChatGPT questions when it first started. Now you’re going to the doctor and you forgot exactly when the pain started. You remember that you asked ChatGPT about the pain the day it started. So you look for the chat, and discover there are no dates. It feels like such an obvious thing that’s missing. Let’s not over complicate things. There aren’t t…
My guess is that including timestamps in messages to the LLM will bias the LLMs responses in material ways, and ways they don't want, and showing timestamps to users but not the LLM will create confusion when the user assumes the LLM is aware of them but it isn't. So the simple product management decision was to just leave them out.
That's no excuse imho. I see 2 different endpoints, 1 for llm stream and 1 for msg history (with stamps). New timestamps could be added FE as new messages start without polluting the user input for example
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ChatGPT has conversation branches. Or do I misunderstand? Just edit a message and it’s a new branch.
In not aware of a feature to access the previous message versions after editing.
I don't see them on their mobile app though.