Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

Post by exitb » Tue, Dec 16, 2025, 9:41 AM UTC

nickpp wrote: post #111

hermanzegerman wrote: post #100

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With Universal Health Insurance as all other developed countries do

Expensive health treatments can easily bankrupt any western government. None of those developed countries can afford to spend their money indiscriminately on them. So instead they turn to waiting lists, death panels and very often saying no but not in your face (since that is politically frowned upon) but thought delays and countless committees and bureaucracy until the patient expires...

Post by Hikikomori » Tue, Dec 16, 2025, 9:43 AM UTC

nickpp wrote: post #104

nxm wrote: post #83

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With 2 month long plus waits for basic scans in countries like Canada

Any system needs a resource allocation algorithm. In capitalism it is easy and transparent: price, with the side effect of aligning society interests with those of the selfish individual. Of course the strange and heavily regulated US health-care system is obviously far far away from a free market. In socialism it's much more random: black markets, lists, lotteries, friends and network of connections. The side effect…

Post by throw-the-towel » Tue, Dec 16, 2025, 9:45 AM UTC

hermanzegerman wrote: post #113

nickpp wrote: post #111

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Expensive health treatments can easily bankrupt any western government. None of those developed countries can afford to spend their money indiscriminately on them. So instead they turn to waiting lists, death panels and very often saying no but not in your face (since that is politically frowned upon) but thought delays and countless committees and bureaucracy until the patient expires...

I know that's what you hear and read on Fox News and other "News Sources" daily. But here in Germany, there are no "death panels" or long waiting times for cancer treatment. Also we don't need "pre-auth" and other Bullshit before we start standard treatments. The real death panels are sitting in your Insurance Companies Offices as seen by the news coverage around United Healthcare et al lately

Post by bell-cot » Tue, Dec 16, 2025, 9:48 AM UTC

nrhrjrjrjtntbt wrote: post #43

CrossVR wrote: post #25

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Unfortunately in Europe these can also be scams, there are some people who will dress up homeless but are actually just begging for profit. They're easy to recognize, because they're very forceful in their begging, relying more on intimidation than compassion. There really is no level people won't sink to for some money.

The trick is donate at the park where they camp out, not on the street.

Post by nrhrjrjrjtntbt » Tue, Dec 16, 2025, 9:50 AM UTC

Pooge wrote: post #56

nrhrjrjrjtntbt wrote: post #50

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Let them buy what they need I think. They dont have the ability to stop being addicted in 60 seconds because logic. If that were possible we could collapse the entire weight loss industry, gambling, need for AA and NA meetings, entire narco infrastructure at the click of a finger.

If they told you it was to buy drugs, would you still give them money? It's not different from giving them the drugs directly. I would personally prefer to give money to someone that needs it to eat.