Never connect a smart TV to the internet. That's how they get you.
Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
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Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#122Surely if Copilot was so useful and great, it wouldn't be free and they wouldn't be trying to force it down unwilling people's throats at every opportunity. I'm beginning to think this AI stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be...
> useful
That's not even the endgoal they are aiming at. Suppose you have a data churning loop you want to run forever. First step is to send a copy everywhere (anywhere) and in whatever shape and form to feast. Otherwise it just sits there looking at the nuclear plant next door.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#123Smart TVs are maybe the dumbest product innovation of my lifetime. Ruining a perfectly good appliance with the addition of software. In 2025 it's literally a luxury experience to deal with computer bs less.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#124Google Meet comes by default on some Samsung TV, cannot be deleted, or disabled, and neither can the microphone permission be remove from it. Smart TVs, more like Spy TVs today.
Years ago my Sony TV came with Google Assistant enabled, and when I disabled it, it nagged me for a long time to turn it back on until I installed some launcher that finally shut off all the nags and full screen ads. The biggest button on the remote is Google Assistant and I have to keep a careful eye on whoever's using it so that they don't accidentally re-enable it.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#125I recently bought a $250 Zojurishi rice cooker because I wanted quality, durability and no "trade offs" I am going to start buying more and more Japanese electronics if US and South Korean companies keep colluding with each other in inserting garbage. Samsung is already preloading intelligence service software and "365 copilot" into their phones to trick old people into paying for a subscription to open a PDF (it set…
Sony TVs are not much better, I had to do quite a bit of work to de-Google mine. This was years ago, I'm sure it's even worse now.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#126As a reminder if you own an LG TV, turn off the sneakily named "Live Plus" thing. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV.
You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF.
Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates.
The enshittification of our world is beyond words.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#127My rule for modern TVs:
1. Never connect the TV panel itself to the internet. Keep it air-gapped. Treat it solely as a dumb monitor.
2. Use an Apple TV for the "smart" features.
3. Avoid Fire TV, Chromecast, or Roku.
The logic is simple, Google (Chromecast) and Amazon (Fire TV) operate on the same business model as the TV manufacturers subsidized hardware in exchange for user data and ad inventory. Apple is the only mainstream option where the hardware cost covers the experience, rather than your viewing habits subsidizing the device.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#128As a reminder if you own an LG TV, turn off the sneakily named "Live Plus" thing. This "option" makes your LG TV spy on you, tracking and reporting what you watch based on the image that is shown on the TV. You need to go to Settings -> All Settings -> General -> System -> Additional Settings to make sure the "Live Plus" option is OFF. Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates. T…
"Check it periodically, as it sometimes turns itself back on again after updates."
Ah, so exactly like Microsoft Windows operating systems behave.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?
Bluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk And most TVs these days have Bluetooth. ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.
I wanted to write comment to the effect of "I don't have amazon devices hur hur", but then realized it does not have to be my device... Especially in an apartment building...
What next, ultrasound? IR?
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#130Is it always listening? If not now, can it be changed to always be listening by a remote update? Can that update be selectively sent to certain users? Who controls which users? It sees you when you're sleeping. It knows when you're awake. It knows if you've been bad or good So be good for goodness sake.
It knows your internet behaviour and sends it to its masters.
Its masters sell that data to anyone who wants it.
Anyone will judge you.