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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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#121

This isn't hypocrisy, it's parenting. Do you think the Pfizer CEO lets their kids have unlimited Viagra? Or the Anheuser-Busch CEO's kids have unlimited Bud Light? I don't think this is the gotcha it's painted as.

You didn’t pick particularly good examples. YouTube Kids [0] is an actual product owned and marketed by Google.

Pfizer and Anheiser-Busch don’t market their products to kids.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Kids

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#122
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I would expect an x-ray technician to limit their kid's time in x-rays. It doesn't mean kids should never get an x-ray. Sometimes moderation means complete abstinence but generally not.

could you highlight what in the original article made you think they were banning their kids from social media entirely? or were you trying to explain something else?

The GGP, not the original article, said "they prevent [emp. mine] their kids from using them".

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post #118

This isn't hypocrisy, it's parenting. Do you think the Pfizer CEO lets their kids have unlimited Viagra? Or the Anheuser-Busch CEO's kids have unlimited Bud Light? I don't think this is the gotcha it's painted as.

I think you'd have a stronger point if stores sold Bud Kidz, a non-alcoholic beverage with all the great Bud taste and fun mascots.

Indeed, the beer companies are far above having Clydesdales and puppies in their ads, or fun dog mascots like Spuds MacKenzie or Alex from Stroh's.

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#124

This isn't hypocrisy, it's parenting. Do you think the Pfizer CEO lets their kids have unlimited Viagra? Or the Anheuser-Busch CEO's kids have unlimited Bud Light? I don't think this is the gotcha it's painted as.

It’s hypocrisy insofar as neither Viagra nor Bud Light has a child demographic in their market. The CEOs of those companies don’t let their kids have them because they’re not for kids; YouTube designates at least some its product as for kids.

(In this way, it would be hypocrisy if Anheuser-Busch’s executive suite were all teetotalers.)

Re: YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

#125

This isn't hypocrisy, it's parenting. Do you think the Pfizer CEO lets their kids have unlimited Viagra? Or the Anheuser-Busch CEO's kids have unlimited Bud Light? I don't think this is the gotcha it's painted as.

You didn’t pick particularly good examples. YouTube Kids [0] is an actual product owned and marketed by Google. Pfizer and Anheiser-Busch don’t market their products to kids. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Kids

And the reason is that those products are (rightly) regulated. Would there be beer marketed to kids if it were legal? Would it be fine if it were the parents' sole responsibility to ensure their kids weren't drinking beer, including at school, at friends' homes where the parents may have different rules, etc., absent a general social consensus that kids shouldn't have beer?

This is anecdotal evidence for the emerging consensus that social media is bad for you and especially for kids. There's a legitimate question whether the people pushing these products know this and don't care or actively suppress evidence.

Tobacco companies famously did this and it caused a lot of harm. It's about that more than just a chance for a cheap shot "hypocrisy" accusation.

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#126

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What do you plan to do? Mine is in preschool but it's just a few years away...I feel pretty desperate.

Find some other activities. Tee-ball, soccer, swimming, cub scouts, anything that involves interacting with other kids without technology.

My son has a friend that went the sports route. He is always trying to sneak Roblox screen time when he is over on a play date and when my kid goes over to his house, his parents are very strict about no screen time and they have a great time.

It’s still up to the parent to enforce limitations even if you can distract them with other things.

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#127

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It's also person after person telling people to parent harder.

It's a responsibility, probably (definitely, I think, but minimally probably) the most important job and responsibility one can have. If you're on HN, then you likely recognize the brain rotting effect of social media without moderation, and if that's the case, your responsibility is to parent to the minimum amount that you moderate your kids' usage.

Yep. And people parent harder by banning social media entirely. Problem solved!

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#128

This has been the case for a while. Look up Waldorf schools. Screen free.

Careful. Waldorf schools have some great ideas but they’re also rife with crackpottery and are somewhat cult-like in many ways.

Curious about the crackpottery and cultiness?

I’m on board with some of their rules, but no listening to prerecorded music is where they lose me.

Re: YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

#129

This thread is person after person saying “oh wow, person who sells terrible thing for humanity doesn’t let their kids have unlimited access to terrible thing! It’s so obvious. This isn’t news.” The news is that the CEO of youtube is saying that Youtube is something that should be limited and he thinks harm will come to his children if he does not. This may be obvious to people on this site but a lot of normal people…

Lots of normal people don't think it's fine. Lots of parents limited their kids' TV (television, you know) time back in the day (mine sure did, thanks mum and dad, even though I didn't particularly approve of the restriction back then). Now you have to limit smartphone (and tablet and PC and TV) time. Lots of parents do this already, CEOs are not alone.

The television set was never in every kids pocket, though. And obviously "lol don't buy your kid a smartphone then lol". sure, easy to say, but the world is getting more and more connected.

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If you are HN you know how to RTFM, I guess. The Fix: Lock it Down: Go to Settings > Screen Time. Tap Turn On Screen Time (if not already on) and set it up for your child. Tap Use Screen Time Passcode and create a passcode that the child doesn't know. Go to Content & Privacy Restrictions (under Screen Time) and turn it on. Tap Allowed Apps (to disable camera/other apps if needed) and Change Restrictions. Under Conten…

Yeah I just took it away from her and she no longer lashes out at me like a crack addict trying to bargain for her fix, that's been a much better move for both of us I've found.

Yes, the behavior changes are very noticeable with strict screen time limits or even screen time bans.
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