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Post by jddj »

Sardtok wrote: post #116

In the year 2032, the rodrone wars broke out. What started as innocent video game experiments, had taken a dark turn. After the rats had perfected playing the classic Doom games in 2026, they were easily trained on more complex simulations. In 2028 the first rodent controlled surveillance drones were tested. The year after weaponised. And the first real deployments in warfare in 2030. They easily outperformed OpenAIs…

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Post by bayesnet »

aw124 wrote: post #118

I'm opposed to this project because it involves using animals in medical experiments, which I believe is never ethically justifiable. It goes against basic moral and ethical principles regarding animal treatment. If the project were designed to allow animals to choose whether or not to participate, it would be more acceptable. Some scientists have already explored such approaches. By not giving animals a choice, you'…

I rolled my eyes at this at first but after looking at the setup they have I have to agree with you… there’s something viscerally horrifying about hooking something sentient up to a trackball with a VR “headset” with no way out.

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Post by ctenb »

bayesnet wrote: post #122
aw124 wrote: post #118

I'm opposed to this project because it involves using animals in medical experiments, which I believe is never ethically justifiable. It goes against basic moral and ethical principles regarding animal treatment. If the project were designed to allow animals to choose whether or not to participate, it would be more acceptable. Some scientists have already explored such approaches. By not giving animals a choice, you'…

I rolled my eyes at this at first but after looking at the setup they have I have to agree with you… there’s something viscerally horrifying about hooking something sentient up to a trackball with a VR “headset” with no way out.

What about work horses?

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Post by st_goliath »

Sardtok wrote: post #116

In the year 2032, the rodrone wars broke out. What started as innocent video game experiments, had taken a dark turn. After the rats had perfected playing the classic Doom games in 2026, they were easily trained on more complex simulations. In 2028 the first rodent controlled surveillance drones were tested. The year after weaponised. And the first real deployments in warfare in 2030. They easily outperformed OpenAIs…

> rodent controlled surveillance drones

See also: WWII era, pigeon-controlled guided bomb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pigeon

Re: Rats Play DOOM

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Post by bayesnet »

ctenb wrote: post #123
bayesnet wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rolled my eyes at this at first but after looking at the setup they have I have to agree with you… there’s something viscerally horrifying about hooking something sentient up to a trackball with a VR “headset” with no way out.

What about work horses?

It’s something about messing with reality. Obviously I can’t know this since (as far as I know) I am not a rat, but I have to believe it’s profoundly disorienting for their little rat brains to interact with VR. At least a work horse can trust its senses.

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Post by neuroelectron »

A huge shortcoming with this setup is that rats don't just see in front of them, they see all around them. The screen right in front of his nose doesn't really simulate his environment the way it does for a human. Luckily doom has command line options for screens on the left and the right. But I imagine a lot of his awareness comes from what's above him.

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Post by shmeeed »

ValdikSS wrote: post #42
a3w wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet. 2035: running Doom on rat brains.

Growing Living Rat Neurons To Play... DOOM? | Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXefdbQDjw

Thanks! Just yesterday I was thinking it's high time for me to check if there's any progress on the Torrent Nexus, and here we are

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Sardtok wrote: post #116

In the year 2032, the rodrone wars broke out. What started as innocent video game experiments, had taken a dark turn. After the rats had perfected playing the classic Doom games in 2026, they were easily trained on more complex simulations. In 2028 the first rodent controlled surveillance drones were tested. The year after weaponised. And the first real deployments in warfare in 2030. They easily outperformed OpenAIs…

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