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Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by frankest »

The only thing that matters here is how good the transcription is. You absolutely have to save the recording. You also have to enable the user to connect to their own transcription service and preserve the recording for that if yours sucks or is not trusted. People have accents. Third party transcription vendors can sell data. Do not mess this up. Enable users to add their own trusted transcription.

If we want to give this to grandparents to save their stories, we can want to have the stories too. If we want it for ourselves, we have to trust it.

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Post by Daneel_ »

zucked wrote: post #75
Daneel_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says two years of average use. “Two” is not “years” in my opinion. “Years” implies at least 3-5.

Years is literally just the plural of a single year. Ergo, years feels like the appropriate word here. What are you suggesting they phase it as instead?

I would always say “two” when talking about such a small quantity. “Years” is misleading, as evidenced by many other comments here.

“The battery lasts two years”

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by h14h »

I'm sold enough on this form factor to take a flyer on a pre-order. I've been hunting for ways to minimize friction when quickly capturing random thoughts and this is a novel idea that seems to go further than anything else I've tried.

The lack of battery charging/replacement is a bummer, but slimness is far more critical for a ring than just about any other device so I understand the tradeoff. I've also seen stories of injuries from battery expansion in fitness rings, so if the risk of this is significantly reduced by eliminating charge cycles, I personally consider that a notable benefit.

Even though, IMO, there are enough legitimate benefits to warrant this product's trade-offs, I imagine its disposable nature will ultimately make it unsuccessful. Off the cuff, it's easy to look at this as "saying the quiet part out loud" vis-a-vis planned obsolescence, and I understand why many would find that extremely off-putting.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by [deleted] »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #105
jfindper wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording". Not sure how long my iphone can record for, but it's probably close to that. Afterwards I get to charge my phone instead of recycle it, though. Apple, don't hire this man. Edit for the downvoters: can my iphone not record that long or something? iphones can't recharge? Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings…

> "Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording". Is that based on anything, or is that just a guess? Anyway, 12 hours' worth of 30 second recordings is a total of 1440 recordings. I guess three a day for a year does seem a little low? > Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings? Enlighten me. What e-waste? You send it in for recycling; they might just repl…

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Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by miyoji »

I'm not sure what other people's hands are like, but mine are pretty big and I can just barely push my thumb against the part of my index finger where I would wear a ring, and doing so renders my thumb useless for any of the opposable things that I usually use my hand for. It's also extremely uncomfortable for my hand and thumb. I've managed to press buttons on my watch with my hands full, but it would literally be impossible to activate this thing with my hands full.

I've worn rings, and they can rotate in place on the hand if they're not perfectly sized, and there aren't any half sizes here, so this would definitely rotate on my finger, making no guarantee that I can even reach the button without adjusting the ring with my other hand, or maybe awkwardly spinning it with my thumb until the button is in reach again.

And it only lasts for 10-15 hours of recording time. And there looks to be a cloud services upsell for better STT than the open source offering on device.

This seems like an early alpha version of something that might be a good idea, but as it is I can't imagine buying one.

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by FlamingMoe »

I think I would use this. I am the kind of person who needs to write things down immediately when they come into my head or I will forget them. I picture wearing it on my ring finger, button down, and use my thumb to press the button, is that realistic or would it be uncomfortable that way?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by ryanjshaw »

Daneel_ wrote: post #33
tenacious_tuna wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from the article: > Initially, we experimented by building this as an app on Pebble, since it has a mic and I’m always wearing one. But, I realized quickly that this was suboptimal - it required me to use my other hand to press the button to start recording (lift-to-wake gestures and wake-words are too unreliable). This was tough to use while bicycling or carrying stuff.

I’ve never had that issue with my Apple Watch. Granted, apple are a world-class developer (arguably), so their stuff might be more reliable, but I use raise-to-speak and hey siri with my watch all the time.

I use it all the time too, but recording a voice memo doesn’t seem possible without touch (you need to tap to actually record)?

Re: Pebble Index 01 – External memory for your brain

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Post by schraitle »

erohead wrote: post #65

(Pebble founder) Happy to answer any questions you have!

How often do you get accidental clicks? Does it interfere with day-to-day activities because you're trying to avoid the button?

Also, I love the idea of providing 3d models for something like this that needs to be perfectly sized

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