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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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That is not a meaningful metric given that we don't live in 1996 and neither do our web standards.

The parent comment is a reference to a different story that was on the HN home page yesterday where someone attempted that with Claude.

Yes, and I had a lengthier response in that thread explaining why this isn't a useful metric.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46183673

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#122

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That is not a meaningful metric given that we don't live in 1996 and neither do our web standards.

In what year was it meaningful to have pelicans riding bicycles?

SVG is a current standard. Do not be coy just to satisfy your urge to disagree.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Claude Code has absolutely zero features that help me review code or do anything else than vibe-coding and accept changes as they come in. We need diff-comparisons between different executions, tailored TUI for that kind of work and more. Claude Code is basically a MVP of that. Still, I do use Claude Code and Codex daily as there is nothing better out there currently. But they still feel tailored towards vibe-coding…

I really do not want those things in Claude COde - I much prefer choosing my own diff tools etc. and running them in a separate terminal. If they start stuffing too much into the TUI they'd ruin it - if you want all that stuff built in, they have the VS Code integration.

Me neither, hence the stated preference for something completely new and different, a stab in the different direction instead of the same boring iteration on yet another agentic TUI coder.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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but can it recreate the spacejam 1996 website? https://www.spacejam.com/1996/jam.html

That is not a meaningful metric given that we don't live in 1996 and neither do our web standards.

Yes, now please prepare an email template which renders fine in outlook using modern web standards. Write it up if you succeed, front page of HN guaranteed!

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

> run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this What kind of hardware do you have to be able to run a performant GPT-OSS-120b locally?

RTX Pro 6000, ends up taking ~66GB when running the MXFP4 native quant with llama-server/llama.cpp and max context, as an example. Guess you could do it with two 5090s with slightly less context, or different software aimed at memory usage efficiency.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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So people have different definitions of the word, but originally Vibe Coding meant "don't even look at the code". If you're actually making sure it's legit, it's not vibe coding anymore. It's just... Backseat Coding? ;) There's a level below that I call Power Coding (like power armor) where you're using a very fast model interactively to make many very small edits. So you're still doing the conceptual work of program…

> If you're actually making sure it's legit, it's not vibe coding anymore. sorry to disappoint you but that is also been considered vibecoding. It is just not pejorative.

Pretty sure Karpathy coined the term here: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383

Imo, if you read the code, it's no longer vibecoding.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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> But where are the professional tools, meant to be used for people who don't want to do vibe-coding, but be heavily assisted by LLMs? Something that is meant to augment the human intellect, not replace it? Claude Code not good enough for ya?

Claude Code has absolutely zero features that help me review code or do anything else than vibe-coding and accept changes as they come in. We need diff-comparisons between different executions, tailored TUI for that kind of work and more. Claude Code is basically a MVP of that. Still, I do use Claude Code and Codex daily as there is nothing better out there currently. But they still feel tailored towards vibe-coding…

What’s wrong with using GIT for reviewing the changes?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#129

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In what year was it meaningful to have pelicans riding bicycles?

SVG is a current standard. Do not be coy just to satisfy your urge to disagree.

The point stands. Whether or not the standard is current has no relevance for the ability of the "AI" to produce the requested content. Either it can or can't.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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no, “No True Scotsman” is just about people not categories like open source

Good job missing the point. Though given the stance you are taking in this conversation, I'm not surprised you want to quibble over that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ultimately you have to imbue words with meaning, otherwise it is impossible to have a discussion. what i said about no true scotsman was false, i was just trying to prove a point.
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