hate Netflix for its content process, hate Oracle for its owner.
first time ever, I'm rooting for Comcast.
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Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix
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#122The final slopification of TV content.
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Thank you for mentioning Department Q and Mindhunter — these were amazing. Netflix has a lot of content some of it is actually really good.
Mindhunter was cancelled for being too expensive.
There must be more to that story. Netflix, HBO, BBC and a bunch of others keep pumping out these kinds of crime dramas exactly because they are quite conservative bets. They are extremely cheap to produce, a handful of mid-range actors on very mundane locations. They can stay as a miniseries or expand later on as wanted. And if the writing is good some of them become incredibly popular and profitable.
I mean, the last Stranger Things series, of all things, is the single most expensive production in history. More expensive than Marvel films, than both Avatars, than all of Games of Thrones, than Rings of Power per episode… It’s mad, for a quaint small-scale mild-horror story set in the 80s.
There is no way Mindhunter was simply too expensive.
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I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.
Anyone that thinks Netflix buying WB would be better than the Ellisons knows nothing about the media business. Look at what James Cameron said about it last week, everyone prefers the Ellisons over Netflix because Netflix actively wants to kill the theatrical and physical media businesses
Further theres been directors that comment on how aggressively NFLX manages them to create lowest-common-denominator type format. One was talking about getting notes back saying "the show needs to be easy enough to follow that someone across the room washing the dishes understands whats going on.
It's why theres no subtext in shows anymore, and they hit you over the head repeatedly with obviousness.
So while TikTok leads the short form race to the bottom, I believe NFLX leads the long form version.
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In my opinion, here in the UK, the cinema/theatre business killed itself. Cinemas are horrible places to visit: - they smell bad (stale junk food) - they have oppressive lighting (mostly extremely dark but with garish turquoise and pink dazzle, accentuating the most confusing aspects of their architecture) - the sound systems are thunderously loud (I'll be taking earplugs the next time I go to one) - most of them are…
Just to add to the pile: The audio/video experience is actually WORSE than a good home cinema with a UHD bluray. Many theaters are still 1080p (and its very noticable on a large screen). Even in 4k the vast majority lack HDR. The new Tron movie, for example, will look much better on a large home screen than it did in most theaters. So why would I pay them to sit in a room full of jerks on their cellphones and watch i…
I’ve mostly had pleasant experiences at my local theatre, even some memorable encounters with strangers, and find the notion of a home theatre rather depressing.
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#127Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…
HBO cancelled Perry Mason, one of the better done noir detective series. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for me. I still get it free because of my AT&T subscription, but I can't argue that Netflix has really come out with anything really worth watching either - Department Q and Mindhunter are only two that I think of that were decent. I agree that the majority of stuff on streaming services is complete garbag…
I wonder if it’s a matter of the platforms optimizing for the wrong metrics, or whether people just stopped paying for quality.
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The theater business is already dead, it just doesn’t realize it yet.
In my opinion, here in the UK, the cinema/theatre business killed itself. Cinemas are horrible places to visit: - they smell bad (stale junk food) - they have oppressive lighting (mostly extremely dark but with garish turquoise and pink dazzle, accentuating the most confusing aspects of their architecture) - the sound systems are thunderously loud (I'll be taking earplugs the next time I go to one) - most of them are…
There are lots of great theaters where I lived (Austin, TX) that are well maintained and have great food and drink.
My problem is other people. People can’t make it more than about 15 minutes before they check their phone and start scrolling. Or if they aren’t checking their phone they are still using the screen like a flashlight to see the menu or their food. Or they eat like a noisy animal. The worst is people with glasses of ice they chew on. Every time they raise their cup it’s basically an ice maraca followed by the sounds of them crushing ice cubes in their mouth.
Even in theaters where phones are banned (Alamo Drafthouse) they generally don’t do anything about it.
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Trash ? The Diplomat has as good a production value as any. So does Bridgerton. Adolescence is basically a single shot marvel. Others - Stranger Things, Money Heist, Black Doves. Not to mention their true crime documentaries. Warner Brothers makes quality content. I think this is an almost perfect fit.
Production is good but not great, The Diplomat is quite melodramatic going too much into soap opera territory. Money Heist is completely a soap opera. Not saying that those aren't good productions but they aren't on par with what HBO used to deliver (True Detective, The Wire, Sopranos, etc.), notwithstanding the leap of faiths HBO take sometimes with stuff like The Rehearsal, and How To With John Wilson. Netflix is v…
Yes and I think the biggest media consumption habit in the last 5-10 years is really no one talks that much about what we are watching with friends / coworkers / on social media.
Game of Thrones feels like the last broad cultural simultaneous viewing kind of series.
Everything now is micro-niche algorithmic targeted single season shows with forgettable titles and actors.
One funny anecdote was overhearing the voice-overed NFLX shows my wife was watching in the other room and realizing they used the same handful of voice actors in a whole slew of series.
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#130I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.
> it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Yet they've failed, I think it's a culture problem. Buy HBO and hopefully carry over the culture and skills to Netflix that way is pretty much they only hope. Netflix created a few good series, but it's also clear that they don't have the writing talent to produce the volume they want. Netflix can produce absolutely bea…
Wasn’t there something going on with an internal battle between two content leads, one focused on “lots of content” and the other on higher quality, more risky bets (that lead to Squid Games, Ozark, Stranger Things, etc), and the one doing the higher quality content ended up losing.
I am convinced they’re hyper focused on the wrong metrics, and don’t take long term retention into consideration.