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GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Nostr would being better. As it is truly free vs AT protocol is backed by VC.

AT being backed by VC is false—it's Bluesky the company that is. AT is merely a spec for signing, storing and propagating structured data (records) + the identity that owns said records.

and who controls what goes in to the spec? still Bluesky.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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How long do you think until the inevitable community split into the Codeberg People's Front and the People's Front of Codeberg over some minor ideological disagreement?

Codeberg will use the forgejo fork that keeps being free, I guess.

Forgejo has relicensed to GPL3 last year

Why they didn't go with agpl is a mystery to me but oh well at least its copyleft

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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AT being backed by VC is false—it's Bluesky the company that is. AT is merely a spec for signing, storing and propagating structured data (records) + the identity that owns said records.

and who controls what goes in to the spec? still Bluesky.

Not really. It's very open for everyone to participate. Further, Bluesky has been working on standardizing AT at the IETF [0][1]. They have also made a patent non-agression pledge: https://bsky.social/about/blog/10-01-2025-patent-pledge

In short, they're actively working on making AT as neutral as possible.

[0]: https://docs.bsky.app/blog/taking-at-to-ietf

[1]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bofreq-newbold-authenticate...

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Seems like a 'you either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain' type of behaviour, which is not uncommon to see in projects like these. Let's hope Codeberg doesn't end up in the same bucket.

That's the reason I don't want to jump on the Codeberg bandwagon just yet, although I'm very interested into self-hosting Forgejo. I'd love to see something else though, a way to have repositories discoverable across all possible centralized or self-hosted services out there. What I actually do love about GitHub is that from time to time it manages to find for me some quite interesting projects and people to check ou…

To note, Codeberg is set up as an _eingetragener Verein_ and has the charitable status, so it's a non profit and the leadership must be elected by the members. KDE has a similar structure with KDE e.V.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Codeberg is a fork of Gitea, itself a fork of Gogs. Both forks originated for "philosophical" reasons, not technical ones and Joe Chen (@unknwon on GH) deserves a lot of the merit for building a clean forge in Go mostly by himself.

How long do you think until the inevitable community split into the Codeberg People's Front and the People's Front of Codeberg over some minor ideological disagreement?

Splitter!

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Any experience with Codeberg + F-Droid after migrating from Github? I.e., is it possible to have F-Droid auto-detect releases on Codeberg like it does on Github?

Not F-Droid, but I have seen projects adding Codeberg support because it's starting to reach the threshold effect.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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... Training their own models out of your code...

Most people don't care about the AI being trained on their FOSS repos. If they did, they would have mass migrated when Microsoft announced it. The timing suggests that the downtime and the performance issues are definitely the irritants here. This is not to say that people shouldn't care about AI training. I was disappointed by the public response when they announced it. The GH ToS has conditions that allow them to u…

I personally expected the AI stuff to be a fad that would go away quickly, and thus didn't get out the second they did that (for the same reason that distro-hopping is unhealthy). It's more a symptom of the frog recognising that okay yeah the temperature's grown definitely too high.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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Does Codeberg provide free CI runners? I'd estimate Microsoft spends over $100m/year on free Github CI. Likely their biggest cost. It doesn't seem like a reasonable thing Codeberg to fund for free.

The article quotes from Codeberg, > Running CI/CD pipelines can use significant amounts of energy. As much as it is tempting to have green checkmarks everywhere, running the jobs costs real money and has environmental costs. Honestly I think the mention of environmental costs has likely made users hesitant to sign up. Mentioning it costs real money is reasonable. Mentioning the environmental costs is not; the environ…

Is it really that low an impact? A lot of the work performed in CI is duplicated (`apt update && apt install texlive-full` f.ex.), and thus there'd be a benefit to running it less often.

Consider also https://openssf.org/blog/2025/09/23/open-infrastructure-is-n... :

> Automated CI systems, large-scale dependency scanners, and ephemeral container builds, which are often operated by companies, place enormous strain on infrastructure. > These commercial-scale workloads often run without caching, throttling, or even awareness of the strain they impose.

...which implies that the load isn't negligible.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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What really stands out to me in this migration story isn't the technical side at all, but the reminder that "feature parity" isn't the real hurdle here. Codeberg is already good enough for most day to day workflows; what it doesn't have is the gravitational pull GitHub built through network effects, integrations, and plain old inertia.

And just sheer amount of documentation and examples out there. Everyone uses it, therefore everyone writes about it, the new hire probably knows it, and if they don't they can find it easily. Then again maybe for stuff like actions and in general CI/CD it's not all that bad, you don't need whole team to know exactly how to write it, you just need to have a person knowing it. and it's generally not all that hard to le…

> Then again maybe for stuff like actions and in general CI/CD it's not all that bad,

CI/CD on github has the npm problem - a lot of tiny stuff gets wrapped in actions people pull in from all over the place. Github does relatively fast deprecations, so actions need to be rewritten and updated even though there's no need for you - in this context I'd argue if it's not a security issue there's no need. So you end up with a lot of work just keeping the existing actions working - and overall would have less effort if you'd have just written your own actions - but not doing that is one of the selling points for github.

I might be biased as I've been doing complex CI/CD for close to two decades now - but github workflows _very_ quickly show their limits when you start seriously using them.

Re: GitHub to Codeberg: my experience

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The article quotes from Codeberg, > Running CI/CD pipelines can use significant amounts of energy. As much as it is tempting to have green checkmarks everywhere, running the jobs costs real money and has environmental costs. Honestly I think the mention of environmental costs has likely made users hesitant to sign up. Mentioning it costs real money is reasonable. Mentioning the environmental costs is not; the environ…

Is it really that low an impact? A lot of the work performed in CI is duplicated (`apt update && apt install texlive-full` f.ex.), and thus there'd be a benefit to running it less often. Consider also https://openssf.org/blog/2025/09/23/open-infrastructure-is-n... : > Automated CI systems, large-scale dependency scanners, and ephemeral container builds, which are often operated by companies, place enormous strain on…

Not negligible on its own. But negligible when you compare it to the transport sector.
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