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The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by mattlondon »

dylan604 wrote: post #87
modeless wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. Let the leaders assassinate each other with drone strikes instead of indiscriminately bombing whole cities as they used to.

what gov't in modern day would fall because the leader was assassinated? the next in line would just step up, and now have a pissed population that will be in favor of ratcheting up beyond assassinations.

Any autocratic state would probably have quite a high likelihood I would expect.

I am sure you can think of a few prominent examples.

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by beginnings »

hbarka wrote: post #56
beginnings wrote: post #54

i tried to watch it but like AI in general, it was extraordinarily boring. neural nets are really cool technically, but the whole AI thing is just getting old and I couldnt care less where its going we can guarantee that whether its the birth of superintelligence or just a very powerful but fundamentally limited algorithm, it will not be used for the betterment of mankind, it will be exploited by the few at the top a…

Hi, I’m genuinely curious about your writing style. I’m seeing this trend of no proper casing and no punctuation becoming vogue-ish. Is there a particular reason you prefer to write this way or is this writing style typical for a generation? Sincere question, not snark, coming from an older generation guy.

it signals high status and nonconformity. the reader intuits that a sigma male is speaking and he doesnt play by the rules. hes not bound by the constraints and regulations of classical reality. hes dangerous

but seriously, its just more comfortable to type. apostrophes and capitals are generally superfluous, we'll and well the only edge case, theyve, theyll, wont, dont etc its just not necessary. theres no ambiguity

i only recently started using full stops for breaks. for years, I was only using commas, but full stops are trending among the right people. but only for breaks, not for closing

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by beginnings »

tim333 wrote: post #72
beginnings wrote: post #54

i tried to watch it but like AI in general, it was extraordinarily boring. neural nets are really cool technically, but the whole AI thing is just getting old and I couldnt care less where its going we can guarantee that whether its the birth of superintelligence or just a very powerful but fundamentally limited algorithm, it will not be used for the betterment of mankind, it will be exploited by the few at the top a…

If you watch on there's a bit where they decide to give away all the protein folding results for free when they could have charged ( https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ?t=4497 ). Not everything is exploitation rather than the betterment of mankind.

that sort of mentality is typical in researchers, but the powers that be will be thinking about profit and control, mass layoffs and AI governance in conjunction with digital id, carbon credits etc

every technological advancement that made people more productive and should have led to them having to do less work, only led to people needing to do more work to survive. i just dont see AI being any different

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Post by nightski »

ainch wrote: post #89
nightski wrote: post #29

In my experience all DeepMind content ends up being a puff piece for Dennis Hassabis. It's like his personal marketing engine lol.

Perhaps they need more advertising around the correct spelling of his name.

Good catch but it was just an honest typo.

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by jpecar »

someguy101010 wrote: post #53

reposting this from youtube comment From 1:14:55-1:15:20, within the span of 25 seconds, the way Demis spoke about releasing all known sequences without a shred of doubt was so amazing to see. There wasn't a single second where he worried about the business side of it (profits, earnings, shareholders, investors) —he just knew it had to be open source for the betterment of the world. Gave me goosebumps. I watched that…

DB of known proteins is not where the money can be made, designing new proteins is. This is why AlphaFold3 (that can aid in this) is now wrapped in layers of legalese preventing you to actually use it in the way you want. At least that's what my lifescience users tell me. Big Pharma is now paying Big Money to DeepMind to make use of AF3 ...

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by tim333 »

echelon wrote: post #35
mattlondon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.

None of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs. It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.

Science in general tends to be subsidised and given away because as basic understanding of the world is hard to monopolise. I'm not sure how Einstein would have done a general relativity startup.

That said Deepmind are doing a spin-off making drugs https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/

Re: The Thinking Game Film – Google DeepMind documentary

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Post by lm28469 »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #22
incognito124 wrote: post #7

Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a complete waste.

Why are images and video a complete waste? This makes no sense to me. Right now the generators aren’t effective but they are definitely stepping stones to something better in the future. If that future thing produces video, movies and pictures better than anything humanity can produce at a rate faster than we can produce things… how is that a waste? It can arguably be bad for society but definitely not a waste.

It might be shocking to you but some people believe there is more to life than producing and consuming "content" faster and faster.

Most of it is used to fool people for engagement, scam, politics or propaganda, it definitely is a huge waste of resource, time, brain and compute power. You have to be completely brainwashed by consumerism and techsolutionism to not see it

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