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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#121
Ok you don't like dark mode.

I love dark mode, and I don't like light mode. Everything is dark mode on my machines, day and night.

I find it stupid to have so much light beamed into my face, and I prefer to only light up the useful signal. The letters and numbers, and graphs. The 99% of background is of no interest and as such it doesn't need to send light to my face.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#124
post #64

Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people. Make it configurable and let people be.

My current problem in Windows is there’s at least 3 system functions, PowerToys and screensaver places vying for control somewhere that I have to manually turn on the Dark theme on when signing in every morning.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#125

True. Use dark mode or don’t, but stop going on about it.

You often don't have a choice. Not without being forced to tinker around with your browser in ways that aren't readily accessible to many/most users. What us dark-mode haters are really asking for is a simple option to click.

Install Darkreader, enable Light mode

https://darkreader.org/

I think most users are capable of that :)

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#126

This is the privileged majority punching down at minority, not unlike an abled person whining about the existence of accessibility options, or a native-born American complaining about government forms also having a Spanish section after the English section. There's a reason that extensions like Dark Mode¹ have 10,000,000+ installs while no "Light Mode" extensions can even exist as far as I can tell: more or less the…

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree that it's not as complicated as some make it out to be, let's not pretend it's just one variable change.

> let's not pretend it's just one variable change. On Wikipedia it literally is: change 'skin-theme-clientpref-day' to 'skin-theme-clientpref-os'

I don't think you know what you're talking about. That looks like the setting you would change specifically on the Wikipedia site. There would be additional code and CSS behind the scenes to enable that functionality. For example, where is the color palette defined?

The discussion is about site owners making light/dark mode configurable. Your first reply reads like you're saying that Wikipedia has an article for how to implement configurable light/dark mode on a site. I now think maybe you just meant "Here's how to change the setting on Wikipedia, it's so easy!" which still misses the point and is not easy for most people.

Maybe if you link to the Wikipedia page you're talking about that would help. I can only find variables like the above in documentation about templates and themes. That wouldn't be helpful anywhere outside of Wikipedia.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#128
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You often don't have a choice. Not without being forced to tinker around with your browser in ways that aren't readily accessible to many/most users. What us dark-mode haters are really asking for is a simple option to click.

I've never seen a browser force dark mode on you as they all seem to default to light mode. Same with the OS. It's also easily configured in Firefox.

I think that's the point of misunderstanding. At the risk of sounding like an LLM, this isn't about a "mode," it's about the infuriating choice made by web designers who hardwire their pages to dark themes.

So, no, it is not "easily configured in Firefox" or anything else running on the client side. When I visit various sites and have to squint at the text, that's 100% on the site designers. It may be fixable by various third-party extension hacks and kludges with numerous drawbacks of their own, but reskinning the site itself isn't something the browser can (or should) be expected to do.

Ideally, sites where the admins prefer light-on-dark text should follow Wikipedia's example, which really sets the standard IMHO, and give users a choice -- auto, dark, or light mode. Here again, 'mode' refers to an option provided by the site, with nothing whatsoever to do with client-side chrome. They are basically just giving you the option of using different curated style sheets, which is great.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#129
post #74

> your ambient lighting is crap . That will kill your eyesight it is a myth that dim lighting negatively impacts eyesight long term.

That depends entirely on what you're doing in that dim lighting. And how much time you spend in it. Spending all of your time in dim lighting is absolutely bad for your vision, or at least that is the contemporary consensus in optometry.

No it does not depend on what you're doing (eg reading) in the poor lighting- that is precisely the myth.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#130
post #124
post #64

Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people. Make it configurable and let people be.

My current problem in Windows is there’s at least 3 system functions, PowerToys and screensaver places vying for control somewhere that I have to manually turn on the Dark theme on when signing in every morning.

Seems like a self-inflicted problem. You can turn off Light Switch in PowerToys. I don't know what screensaver software you're using, but if it's hijacking the setting maybe consider uninstalling it.
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