Interesting, but I wonder if the Oauth with Yubikeys is fixed yet?
My work email is behind Okta and I can get through the whole flow of Oauth up till it hits the WebAuthN..which works but it won't display a pin entry dialog.
Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
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Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried a couple of them, and they both started downloading my entire backlog of email to my hard drive, which I didn't want. I couldn't think of a reason why this would be necessary, but I haven't really kept up with how the technology has evolved in recent years. Is this behavior intrinsic to desktop clients?
You can't think of a reason why you'd want a local copy of your mail? Do you have control over any of your data?
I can think of reasons why I might want a local copy, but they didn't apply in my case.
Do I have control over my data? I'm not sure I understand the question, but in this case the answer seems like a clear no, as my employer manages the email server.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#123While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
> Then Thunderbird arrived on the scene
Apologies, but in my memory Thunderbird is just the new name for Netscape Mail. And Netscape mail, I believe, is older than Outlook.
I still have folders in my current Thunderbird that I created in Netscape (for example the 1996 folder that contains all mail from 1996).
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#124Doesn't work for me, and the account creation window itself is buggy with poor UX, throws a general error and requires me to retype password each time I try to use a different set of settings.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#125While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
Outlook was better than Lotus Notes at least.
MS Outlook was a heaven for viruses.
Lotus (even before Notes) had cloud-like features for mail and worked on Windows and OS/2.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Bat! was absolutely the best email client. ever. way ahead of eudora. it was a massive step back when i switched to my first macbook in 2006 (the black one!) and started to use Thunderbird. That said Thunderbird is fantastic now and great to see it get native Exchange support!
What is it like to use The Bat?
It hits hard.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#127While its been a long time since Ive used Thunderbird, I just wanted to take the time to publicly say thank you. Many HNers probably wont (or cant) remember the world of desktop mail clients but basically during the height of MSFT dominance there was only one real mail client: Outlook. Which Microsoft was starting to monetize heavily, ignore UX, and keep it windows only (cant blame them for that). Then Thunderbird ar…
> Then Thunderbird arrived on the scene Apologies, but in my memory Thunderbird is just the new name for Netscape Mail. And Netscape mail, I believe, is older than Outlook. I still have folders in my current Thunderbird that I created in Netscape (for example the 1996 folder that contains all mail from 1996).
Yeah, same with Firefox, to me it's just the new name for Netscape Navigator.
I still got some bookmarks carried over from Navigator... though I bet 95+% don't work anymore.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#128Microsoft could have effortlessly made it easier for others to implement integrations with Microsoft Exchange but they won't. They needed to make sure as many people as possible get vendor locked. Imagine going to work, and having a meeting about how you can make it harder for your software to interoperate with other software. Or waking up in the morning and spending your day designing a proprietary protocol designed…
"OSS projects have been able to gain a foothold in many server applications because of the wide utility of highly commoditized, simple protocols. By extending these protocols and developing new protocols, we can deny OSS projects entry into the market."
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't think of a reason why you'd want a local copy of your mail? Do you have control over any of your data?
I can think of reasons why I might want a local copy, but they didn't apply in my case. Do I have control over my data? I'm not sure I understand the question, but in this case the answer seems like a clear no, as my employer manages the email server.
There are options in Thunderbird to disable syncing completely or only sync messages from the last 30 days and such.
Re: Thunderbird adds native Microsoft Exchange email support
#130All facts aside, Thunderbird is portable, you can install it on usb and carry your mailbox in pocket, connect to any pc and access without touching host filesystem, if pc has internet browse new mails and all i always carry it on pendrive with encrypted partition, and encryption software is also natively installed on usb, so no use of host pc for anything, mail or decryption
And you randomly use public or other peoples computers? Seems more inconvenient than just having email on your phone.