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Re: Zed is our office

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Post by tomComb »

a-dub wrote: post #79
electroly wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pair programming usually has a single "driver" on the keyboard to keep things controllable. Here, everybody is driving: "dozens of cursors are concurrently editing the same file in real-time."

my understanding is that this is the dynamic in modern college classrooms. everyone opens a big shared google doc for notes and they all collaboratively edit a set of notes in real-time. or at least that's what i've heard, no idea if they actually do it. it is nice to see a crdt backed editor tool for markdown and code though. gdocs markdown support has been lacking for years.

True, but the option of wysiwyg for editing markdown would really be a great addition. Or even just for preview ... https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/21717

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by verdverm »

hrimfaxi wrote: post #117
verdverm wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stay away from anything Hashimoto is making after my experiences with TF & HCL, or at least the bar is much higher / projects get a lot more scrutiny

What does Mitchell Hashimoto have to do with Zed beyond a guest blog post?

My understanding is that he is involved in the development of Zed

I find Zed's feature choices to be really poor, and then I probably made a poor association based on his talking about zed

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Post by mystifyingpoi »

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

How does Neovim handle outside changes then? Or is there a plugin to make it work? AFAIK it doesn't reload any bufferes when files change. IntelliJ is the only other one I know that does it transparently.

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Post by yobert »

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

My experience has been so different. Zed seems to always do the right thing for me when I concurrently edit files with other tools. Not doubting your experience or anything, but you must have a very different environment than me. Zed has been absolutely rock solid for the past year on my computer.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

nixpulvis wrote: post #64
the__alchemist wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incidentally, I use Vim for editing files via SSH as you do, or if I'm in WSL, but haven't figured out how to use it for projects!

I just have a few plugins which help. Mainly the LSP for gotodef and popovers for type info, etc. This was what finally made me transition to neovim. Also a tree viewer, Startify, and :Rg for ripgrep integration. Those are my big ones. Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped proces…

> Sadly my workflow of using `!` to get back to my terminal and things like `!make` or `!cargo build` is fucked in neovim. So I do a lot of ctrl-z and the a lot of killing stopped processes I forgot I suspended. I've complained about this in various threads and chats, but the developers aren't interested in letting us use the old vim `!` which is super lame.

I'm sorry... what?? I still use vim as I haven't found a reason to jump to neovim, but you're telling me external commands don't work properly? That's wild.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by vmiklos »

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #123
BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

How does Neovim handle outside changes then? Or is there a plugin to make it work? AFAIK it doesn't reload any bufferes when files change. IntelliJ is the only other one I know that does it transparently.

Plain vim asks what to do by default. A single 'l' does a reload.

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Post by jchw »

BinaryPie wrote: post #102

I generally like what Zed is trying to become. However, all of these features and blog posts are frustraing when they struggle to keep basic editor features stable. Edit a file outside of the editor? It's not going to show up in the project pane or the git diff. Need to work inside a container because it's 2025 and we don't need to clutter our local machine with 100s of dependencies and env managers... well now all t…

I am not getting tons of issues with Zed going out of sync all the time. I wonder if the issue is it silently having issues watching the filesystem due to open fd limits.

I've noticed that not only does it sync but it even will recognize if I rename the folder a workspace is in.

But then, I've run into a couple of strange issues that tell me there is more polish needed:

- Sometimes upon using LSP refactor, it seems like if a bunch of files get renamed, the open buffers will get screwed up somehow. Like, I'll hit save and it will write to the old filename! It's not actually a huge problem, as I can close the buffers, delete whatever excess files I accidentally create, and re-open them without error, but it is confusing as hell.

- I have indeed had issues with the file view not always updating when files are added externally, however it is not constantly. I usually just reload workspace when this happens. It is a minor frustration, but I had many minor recurring frustrations with both VS Code and Neovim before too, so I don't consider it a deal breaker.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by duderific »

aanet wrote: post #34

/offtopic Is it just my vision, or are websites getting super low contrast these days, esp the text-heavy ones?

Also the typeface, kerning and line heights are a bit - unconventional, which doesn't help the readability

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by stickfigure »

Looks a lot like Google Wave. This is interesting for some things but I don't think coding is it, for the same reason that IntelliJ's CodeWithMe doesn't work for pair programming. And apparently one of the guys is a former Pivot, so it's a little surprising.

Pair programming is Two People One Cursor. A critical aspect of it is you're both looking at the same lines of code and working on the same problem and following each other's thought processes.

CodeWithMe (and it seems Zed) is Same Codebase, Same Day. There's no shared focus. You edit stuff, I edit stuff, maybe there's overlap. But this isn't much different from doing separate git commits.

So far the only remote pairing tool I've found that works competently is pop.com.

Re: Zed is our office

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Post by the__alchemist »

kwanbix wrote: post #56
the__alchemist wrote: post #52

Here is where I've settled on for Zed. I initially thought it might be a Sublime replacement for one-off files, but it seems it's geared towards projects. It's not as powerful as Jetbrains (RustRover, PyCharm etc), but is much faster. So here's how I'm using Zed: - On my Tablet, which is too slow for Jetbrains IDEs to run smoothly - On certain projects I have which choke Jetbrains IDEs. (Due to macro use maybe?) I th…

Why would you use a tablet for this type of work? Honest question.

Surface tablet, so it's like a laptop. I can kick the keyboard off when I'm reading stuff, to allow room for food and drinks. And I do drawing/notes with the pen.

Another way of stating this: It's a general purpose portable computer; not specialized coding PC.

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