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Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by huherto »

OhNoHereWeGo wrote: post #85

The essence of this post is about craftsmanship, value, and caring about what you're doing. It's really hard to put this into words. There's certainly a gradient and trade-offs to be made. In most businesses, the priority is to make money. This is not bad. Business owners deserve to make money for their efforts. It's always been the case that "bean counters" will optimize to increase profits. If you want a superior p…

"Quality is Free" was repeated over and over by my college professor back in the 80s. I guess he was fan if this guy. https://archive.org/details/qualityisfree00cros.

Similarly in software. When a software product is well crafted/engineered, it has less defects, it is easier to understand and modify, saving a lot of time and effort. I do not see that anymore. I see a lot of smart young engineers but they are managed in a way in which the craft doesn't matter and what matters is how many story points you do.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by ctxc »

barumrho wrote: post #59

“이/가” is the Korean version of this. It depends on the sound of the word that precedes. I still remember seeing it when I first started using Windows 95. As a kid, I was amused that it didn’t know which one to use. Really, I didn’t even know that I was making that choice (and couldn’t say what the rule was). If anyone is interested about it, this page explains https://www.90daykorean.com/i-ga-grammar/

Haha, interesting!

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by ctxc »

angiolillo wrote: post #43

It's a tradeoff. I love projects where I can "sweat the details" and refine not just wording but typography, padding, visual alignment, layout, edge cases, colors, workflow, etc. And where the back-end, QA, doc teams are similarly able to hone their work to perfection. But I know that this isn't always Pareto optimal. Sometimes your user, customer, and business are better off if you swallow your pride and deliver an…

Agreed! But I suspect several of these decisions are not intentionally made and are "...meh, whatever".

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by darkwater »

ang_cire wrote: post #109
skeeter2020 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Van Halen was playing giant stadium shows that were massive logistical and coordination challenges and used this contract language as a canary for more important aspects like the scafolding setup. If they didn't read the catering closely, did they also skim the electrical schematics? Their concerts were perfect scenarios for heavy-weight process, defined procedures and scientific management. A lot of software is punk…

> If they didn't read the catering closely, did they also skim the electrical schematics? This is dumb pop-psych stuff, like the "make interview candidates wait then reject them if they don't know the other candidates' names" type hiring "tricks". It's barely different than judging someone based on their handshake grip strength, imo. Perhaps these companies prioritized the work properly, and determined that electrica…

> This is dumb pop-psych stuff, like the "make interview candidates wait then reject them if they don't know the other candidates' names" type hiring "tricks". It's barely different than judging someone based on their handshake grip strength, imo.

Wait, what? How are these related? One thing is putting a canary clause in a contract between companies to check if they actually read all the clauses (which had to be followed due to technical requirements that could make a stage collapse, for example), and another is your example.

Why are people in this sub-thread (including the grand-parent that started it) try to read between the lines of what David Lee Roth said? It's pretty clear and a solid way of doing businesses. Could they be just lying to justify their rock-star attitude back in the day? I highly doubt so.

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by ctxc »

BobbyTables2 wrote: post #92

I wonder if the blog author has ever had to write automated tests for what they propose.. Sure it’s doable, but trivial things are now non-trivial. Ignoring i8n is also a significant issue.

Tests? What tests? ;)

Seriously though, "Files deleted: {0 or 1 or 1000}" would also work :)

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Post by philk10 »

fhub wrote: post #87
cmdtab wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We want to hire engineers who really pay attention to details and great product experience but it’s quite rare in practice. Hiring is super hard.

Outside of engineers there is a whole raft of people on a team that should pick up and push back on this sort of copy problem at all phases of building a product.

holds hand up as one of those people

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by ctxc »

stevenjgarner wrote: post #93

With such a clear vision of the "company I want to be a part of", maybe you should walk the walk and establish such a company? Perhaps then you will find out that what actually floats to the top is what we've got, rather than what we want. Or perhaps you will be the next GOAT.

Ouch. Unfortunately I don't think I will.

I'll probably always be hired by someone else to build a shared vision and aspire to do it as well as I possibly can :)

Re: The kind of company I want to be a part of

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Post by stackedinserter »

abraxas wrote: post #5

Number "two" in Polish (depending on context): dwa, dwoje, dwie, dwóch, dwiema, dwom, dwojga, dwojgu, dwójka, dwójki, dwójkę, dwójką, dwójce, dwójko So that's just my mother tongue. It think your problem is a bit more complex than (s).

Any language is like this. There shouldn't be too difficult to say "two files have been uploaded" even in Polish.
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