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The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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torque is the more important figure. Which is why 13l truck engines output only about 600hp.

I never understood why people care about torque from an engine when it's going to be connected to a gearbox that can convert the torque to whatever you want anyway. So why is torque a more important spec than power for an engine?

An F1 gearbox can convert your torque to HP, but the gearing may or may not survive very long. If, like marine or rail applications, you need a fairly constant output power that isn't brutal on the spinning bits of metal, you will optimize for high torque at relatively low RPM.

Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

#122

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torque is the more important figure. Which is why 13l truck engines output only about 600hp.

I never understood why people care about torque from an engine when it's going to be connected to a gearbox that can convert the torque to whatever you want anyway. So why is torque a more important spec than power for an engine?

They are related by the shaft speed anyway.

The reason that a lot of applications consider torque is that's more efficient to operate near the required shaft speed than it is to run faster and gear down. You fight more inertia in the engine at higher speed, and you add rotating mass with your gearbox.

Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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Exactly. Back when I was a newbie we melted all the lights on the engine as well as on my own truck since I was first on scene POV (Personally Owned Vehicle). And of course we charred some hose but that's common. Then CHAOS happened (Chief Has Arrived On Scene) and he quickly moved both trucks farther away from the fire, saving the county (and me!) the cost of a new truck.

It's incredibly unfortunate when those things happen, but it comes with the territory sometimes. Case in point: https://www.firerescue1.com/firefighter-safety/photo-video-l...

This kind of incident is embarrassing to any fire service, but I'll always sacrifice apparatus if it saves people. I'll be the butt of jokes for the rest of my career, but it's still a win.

Re: The Mack Super Pumper was a locomotive engined fire fighter (2018)

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> avid train spotter at Waverley station in edinburgh We probably met. I was there every day traveling to and from school but did casual trainspotting on the side. Oblivious someone would one day write a book with that title..

If you're the guy who flung a football pie at my head from a train window, I remember that pie crust.

Hahaha. Proto-DC-sandwitch-thrower. Not me though. I'd be eating the pie.
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