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Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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I'm surprised there aren't more hand-crafted OSs popping up on HN. Agentic AI can give you the basics of an OS in 15 minutes. It gets confused when debugging assembly code, but it can give you a good framework and walk you though the remainder of the steps.

The biggest problem on today's OS is I/O driver. Specifically USB driver.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What youre describing is called iOS on a large iPad. iPad was my gateway drug into Apple when I got it as a gift for my aunt and saw how easy and intuitive it was to use, and also to develop for. Then after Jobs' whip fell from his cold hands they went into the realm of "mystery meat" menus and arcane gestures where swiping from seemingly every different angle of the screen edge does something different. Swipe from…

> the realm of "mystery meat" menus and arcane gestures where swiping from seemingly every different angle of the screen edge does something different. Swipe from the top-right corner to get the Control Center, but swipe from the center-top to see the Notifications? Ha, I'm a heavy long term iOS and MacOS user, and I still haven't learned what all the swipes and clicks in random places actually do exactly. I just I k…

> swishing right

It could be

1. you clicked the desktop which causes the desktop to be revealed. Clicking the desktop again restores things.

2. You have hot corners configured to reveal the desktop.

3. Stage manager.

Just my guesses. Maybe they will help.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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post #73
post #71

It’s short for “visual operating system” but there are no screenshots anywhere. That would have felt off even in 1997. Maybe they mean something else by visual.

Around 1997 I learned the concept of RTFM! Obviously my father already taught me to look in the DOS and WordPerfect manuals to learn about features and commands one might use. Great learnings. Oh and: https://visopsys.org/about/screenshots/

> Great learnings.

Lessons. The word is lessons.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

#124

I'm surprised there aren't more hand-crafted OSs popping up on HN. Agentic AI can give you the basics of an OS in 15 minutes. It gets confused when debugging assembly code, but it can give you a good framework and walk you though the remainder of the steps.

The biggest problem on today's OS is I/O driver. Specifically USB driver.

And ACPI/APIC and tons of extra pests.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

#125

I'm surprised there aren't more hand-crafted OSs popping up on HN. Agentic AI can give you the basics of an OS in 15 minutes. It gets confused when debugging assembly code, but it can give you a good framework and walk you though the remainder of the steps.

I am intrigued. Go ahead and show us ONE 15 minute agentic ai os that runs on metal.

The parent commenter should get an Altair Z80 emulator with CP/M 2.2 and begin writting stuff in assembly.

Even a simple Tetris would be a daunting task.

He could even try high level languages such as T3X, which is very Pascal-like to my eyes in order to be familiar with CP/M 2.2 and after some months I would switch to Z80 assembly in order to write stuff for CP/M.

These AI's would be clueless about T3X OFC, or almost, because of the nasty scrappers. Still, it would be an ideal exercise to avoid the AI completely. You learn by the book. Literally.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

#126

I'm surprised there aren't more hand-crafted OSs popping up on HN. Agentic AI can give you the basics of an OS in 15 minutes. It gets confused when debugging assembly code, but it can give you a good framework and walk you though the remainder of the steps.

I threw myself at it for weeks and couldn't even get a blinking LED to run on the bare metal on a RPi.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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post #41

Ahh this OS is small enough that a university professor used it as the basis for his class assignments: write a device driver for it, or a pipe implementation, if I recall correctly. I thought it was pretty genius at the time, and it was certainly quite a challenge for the students too.

Does this class have a public web page? I would love to take a look and do something similar in my spare time.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True in theory, but in practice due to our economy being based on growth at all costs, iOS doesn’t really fit the bill anymore. Nowadays even iOS will randomly change its UI and send you “notifications” or “suggestions” (modern euphemism for “ads”) to subscribe to Apple TV* or iCloud.

I was forced to buy a new iPhone recently (my 16 was stolen), and had iOS 26 foisted on me. My god, is it bad (for me, I'm sure some like it). The ugly glass UX, the weird floating controls, the always on display, blah blah. It's not innovative at all, it's like they just had to redo everything simply to make it seem "new".

> The ugly glass UX, the weird floating controls, the always on display, blah blah

I'm on the "some like it" boat, to my surprise. I think the glass effect is eye-catching in a good way, and is much-less of a readability issue than I had expected. I often notice how cool it looks over my rotating background photos. I also love the always-on display because I don't have a watch.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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> liked the project and the name that I chose it for my hackernews account 14 years ago Some people name themselves `__xXx_ultimatEWeapon420_xXx__` and some people name themselves after a random toy operating system.

Classic nerd habit.

Indeed… says the guy who named himself after a Dec Unix kernel some 30 years ago..,

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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post #120

It mentions preemptive multitasking as one of its features. Are there any operating systems that still use cooperative multitasking?

> Are there any operating systems that still use cooperative multitasking? Android ? /s Still not able to run 2 programs in the same time after all these years.

Android literally has a desktop Window manager now:

https://www.androidauthority.com/working-android-16-desktop-...

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