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SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by poetaster »

ho_schi wrote: post #53
ho_schi wrote: post #11

SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…

Does anyone know if Jolla ever published the full source-code? The promised back in 2013.

They've been opening up bit by bit. First stuff like 'jolla-weather', recently, the notes app and numerous bits in the backend ... Currently sync for nextcloud system integration is in the works.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by poetaster »

willi59549879 wrote: post #89

Sailfish OS looks nice. but i am not sure if their strategie for applications is the way to go. Applications need to be specifically built for Sailfish OS with their IDE which uses Qt. That means you can't run just any linux software on it.

Nope. You can use SDL2, which is behind the Godot port for Sailfish (3.5 still). Supertuxcart, Openlara a bunch of games stuff is viable. There is an active Lua Love porter and and and ...

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by MayeulC »

ho_schi wrote: post #106
ekianjo wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> native ports Native ports have huge problems as well. Most of them are hardly maintained and stop working years down the road.

People say that. Don’t call out the bad examples (there are some!). The never mention the good examples? ioQuake3 - still work's CS2 - still works HL1, HL2, CS1,CSGO - still works Unrailed - still works? UT2003 - there it is getting hard, unmaintained since ca. 2003. But it is doable if you want it. Quake3 - same as above. Most bad ports were made by inexperienced developers. And honestly, these people need to learn!…

Most of these are actively maintained though. Older ports, such as UT2004, still work but a few upgrades give a much better experience: SDL2-compat (and now SDL3-compat) really helps, as it brings compatibility with newer APIs (pulseaudio, Wayland, newer controllers, etc).

Please use SDL when targeting Linux!

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by dman »

dredmorbius wrote: post #51
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #42

Many years ago I backed the Jolla Tablet, which never shipped and they never gave me a refund. At the time the company kept pretending like things were perfectly fine with every update right until they let everyone know that the project was being cancelled. There was zero transparency and accountability, and from that day I vowed to never support this company ever again. I would've been fine if the project had failed…

I'm not familiar with the background here. There was a blog post committing to refunds given sufficient cashflow, posted in 2017: https://blog.jolla.com/summer-2017-ceo-update/ > HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14637748 > It does appear that Jolla has shipped other products (SailfishOS, the Jolla Phone in 2013, some tablets, and others, see Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla#Sailfish_O…

I never got a refund or a tablet. They were very unprofessional through the entire situation.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by poetaster »

rchaud wrote: post #35
hkt wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It runs Android apps. Presumably, it has access to the Play store in some capacity, or a viable alternative.

Access to the Play Store requires the proprietary Google Play Services code, so I doubt this has it. The alternative would be installing apps via APK files.

People often use micro-g and co.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by poetaster »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #5

there's an easy roadmap to make this popular. make it so that I can dock it and use it as a full fat OS on a desktop. If they wanna market this as an open phone, they need to make it first class as a primary computing device. so far only samsung is willing to enter this territory with a glorified chromebook. if I could install the rust toolchain and vscode on it and use it in a customizable desktop environemnt by plu…

There are a number of rust developers building for SailfishOs. Rubdos maintains a Signal client in rust. The toolchain also runs on the build service maintained by Jolla (obs). I'm not sure what the editor has to do with it. I use vim for most of my SFOS development but sometimes use the SDK, sometimes I use Godot.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by shmerl »

fractallyte wrote: post #110
shmerl wrote: post #36

They should open source their UI layer.

Why? It's a commercial venture - how would they feed their developers?

I doubt that's their way of feeding them. At one point they explicitly said they'll do it, but never did.
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