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Re: Recall for Linux

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I know this is satire, but there is actually one and one you actually control. May be useful to remember who said what and where. It can be useful. Just not the way a megacorp implements it. Here it is [unaffiliated, untested by me, unvetted]: https://github.com/openrecall/openrecall

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Re: Recall for Linux

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I recently went back to full time Linux and the gaming aspect is fine with my RTX-3090. I don't really play anything like COD or Battlefield with all the invasive anticheat though, so your mileage may vary

Love bazzite on my 9070/9800x3d setup. Zero issues with a game yet. Played expedition 33 the day I built it a few months back!

Nice, I'm running a 7900XTX/7950X3D so I may give it a try - I don't game anything like as much as I used to though anyway so if the odd game did cause issues it's no biggie.

Re: Recall for Linux

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Admittedly, a distro agnostic equivalent to the PKGBUILD or Nix Flakes would have been great. But it's hard to excuse them when so many better alternatives are available. Even apps that could easily be built into a single binary use these odd installation methods. And while Flatpak gets a lot of criticism, I honestly think it's far better than these `script| bash` methods.

Yeah, honestly, package your thing up as either a .DEB or an .RPM. 'alien' [0] will handle converting from one to the other, and that will take care of like 90->98% of the Linux users out there. The "OMFG there's no standard way to package things on Linux!" complaint kinda sucks. [0] https://wiki.debian.org/Alien >

fpm (Effing package manager) goes far beyond what alien does, too, in case you need even more flexibility.

https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting-started.html

Re: Recall for Linux

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As long as it's stored and processed locally, I don't really see the implications being that much worse than someone getting all your local IRC/IM/email logs. (Those or their equivalents are stored in the cloud nowadays but disregard that for now for the sake of argument.)

It has been over a decade that big tech has been playing this script: * Introduce a feature that is abysmal for user privacy * Promise it's okay because $reasons * Make the feature opt-out * Change the EULA so that $reasons are no longer applicable/valid * Roll out an update that "accidentally" turns the feature back on for everyone * Apologize, deny, divert, deflect * Siphon off all that sweet sweet user data Rinse…

You are merely objecting to Microsoft being the developer behind Recall. Great I don't fault you for that. But now consider hypothetically what if the Linux Foundation developed and announced Recall?

Re: Recall for Linux

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Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

To me it felt like just shoving more AI for the sake of it, pretending that there is a problem to solve while making no case for it, and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable externality.

>and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable externality

Can we stop this? It's like saying it takes 2500 litres of water to make a hamburger. Distorting reality to make it seem worse than it is implicitly justifies it.

Re: Recall for Linux

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It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…

Conceptually a feature similar to Recall doesn't have to involve sending any data to third parties. It should not need to be a service just a piece of software running locally, doing OCR and full text search indexing using local compute. Incidentally I often tell my friends I run an app on my phone that captures my location 24/7 and they would initially sound horrified. But then I tell them all my location data is no…

The problem is that the data has to go somewhere. If you don't have the compute power locally, you have to send it to a server you control. At a point, this starts to break down because your attention to detail isn't sufficient to protect other operators. I think there are some happier mediums, but I wouldn't be as strident as saying there is no risk even if this is stored locally.

Re: Recall for Linux

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> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

> I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux. I have on occasion been scared off of buying a package from Humble Bundle when the games are available on Steam but not explicitly marked as linux. (Some of the games are marked with linux and some are not.) Are you saying I am being unnecessarily cautious? For example, there is a "momcore" bundle at the moment where som…

You can often find reports from people running games on linux at protondb.com

Re: Recall for Linux

#129

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

It's bad in concept as well. All of that data sent to a third party server is going to be public on the Internet at some point . Security? Don't make me laugh. Countries that required government IDs to participate online have already made this mistake and those IDs have been leaked. Just because it's open source or run by $NOT_MICROSOFT won't make it any safer. The problem with other people consenting to it is that i…

I'm pretty sure recall was specifically a selling point for laptops with ai chips which could do the processing locally and reasonably efficiently?

Though storing the data locally still could make getting compromised by a targeted attack more dangerous.

Re: Recall for Linux

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post #82

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

To me it felt like just shoving more AI for the sake of it, pretending that there is a problem to solve while making no case for it, and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable externality.

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