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Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by wilfra »

yesimahuman wrote: post #57
jenius wrote: post #15

When I saw this and clicked it, I was preparing myself for a bootstrap-in-production-code abomination, but was pleasantly surprised. The design and interaction on this site are gorgeous and not boostrapped, and the tool looks really nice for putting together prototypes. With all the horrible bootstrap default production sites i've seen lately, I've developed a pretty signficant hatred for the framework. But sometimes…

Thanks! We did build a lot of this with bootstrap itself, using custom LESS. I do disagree that bootstrap doesn't replace unique design and code. Lots of great websites have a standard set of interface elements, and bootstrap makes this extremely easy. Just add your custom styles and you have a unique site built on a solid CSS framework.

He said they just need to 'hire a real designer and/or front-end guy' - which basically translates to 'add your custom styles' and you're both happy. And I agree with you both.

The problem is so many people don't do that. They just leave the stock bootstrap there. If you can't even be bothered to change the colors from the templates, how am I supposed to take your company seriously?

Re: pricing. It depends how awesome you plan to make this. As it stands I'd probably pay $10 a month, maybe a bit more. If you fully pimped it out like Balsamiq has done for mockups - the sky is the limit. And if you had no competition for a bunch of your features - I'd actually prefer you charged more and had fewer customers, so everybody doesn't roll their eyes when they see something I built with Jetstrap, like they are doing now with Bootstrap (that assumes you get around to LESS integration...hint hint!).

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by wilfra »

yesimahuman wrote: post #120
wilfra wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same! I asked for this via Twitter and when I got that email today it was like Christmas. But then I read the email and went to the site, and was so sad they didn't do anything like this :( Is this in the pipeline?

As mentioned below, you can modify the CSS of your project to do this, but we don't have any LESS integration built in just yet.

If I was a CSS-Jedi I wouldn't need jetstrap or bootstrap :)

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by bruth »

Nice work. One nitpick is the "Saving..." text with the spinner is very distracting. My eyes shoot up and look at it every time. I have a personal feeling that displaying "Saving" text represents a lack of confidence that it will actually save. Since it's there my eyes go look every time to make sure it _has_ saved. If you feel it is important to display to your users their work has been saved.. show a subtle timestamp or something with the last save date, but remove the spinner.

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by lmg643 »

I would second comments elsewhere that balsamiq is a good model for this site. I am a paying balsamiq customer. Jetstrap seems like balsamiq but you are building a functional prototype instead of a wireframe mockup. As is, this could be worth about the same on a monthly basis, and I could possibly see this becoming a hosting site for full fledged pages built on jetstrap.

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by yesimahuman »

wilfra wrote: post #122
yesimahuman wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned below, you can modify the CSS of your project to do this, but we don't have any LESS integration built in just yet.

If I was a CSS-Jedi I wouldn't need jetstrap or bootstrap :)

Fair enough :) It would be awesome to have more theming control. We will keep it in mind.

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by justindocanto »

I love this tool. As a programmer I cringe at most WYSIWYG because they heavily dilute the code needed to make something happen + hardly ever get it done in the first place. This actually looks very promising.

One note though. Your target audience is going to include non-programmers and those people might not even know the proper names for some of these bootstrap elements. So I suggest some kind of toggle between the boostrap name buttons & maybe some sort of GUI. like Actually dragging a menu into the workspace, or dragging a twitter bootstrap button into the workspace, etc.

Other than that.. I like where this is going.

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by asdfaoeu »

ebzlo wrote: post #108
itsprofitbaron wrote: post #101

I noticed the "Try Jetstrap free today!" then I saw you mention "Our first thought was $10/mo for 100 screens" [1] which I think is not only underpriced but the wrong pricing structure. You should implement something like this: - User signs up - gets 5 - 10 FREE Screens. - Once they've used up their FREE screens take them to a page to purchase more screens. - When they have 1-2 FREE Screens remaining you should have…

The problem with this is that there is no incentive to keep one account. GoMockingbird ( http://gomockingbird.com ) is an example of an application I probably have 4 accounts for-- not on purpose, I just couldn't figure out which email, twitter, facebook I used to sign up for it. I didn't realize that only the first project was free until later, because I generally stop using it after one project. I could totally for…

Right idea I think but I would go with something that makes it more useful for not just prototyping like api export / import and direct editing of template formats like interpreting ruby's erb just enough to display some placeholder text.

Re: Jetstrap for Bootstrap

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Post by neya »

My suggestion as a UI/UX guy: Refine the call-to-action buttons by assigning them a different color. Black is not really an attention seeker. I would suggest something like a bright Green or pale Blue for the buttons (for the Sign up buttons on the top and the bottom). Hopefully this will improve your conversion rate.

Just these, otherwise excellent. Keep it up guys!

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