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Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#121
A good takeaway is to separate different domains for different purposes.

I had prior been tossing up the pros/cons of this (such as teaching the user to accept millions of arbitrary TLDs as official), but I think this article (and other considerations) have solidified it for me.

For example

www.contoso.com (public)

www.contoso.blog (public with user comments)

contoso.net (internal)

staging.contoso.dev (dev/zero trust endpoints)

raging-lemur-a012afb4.contoso.build (snapshots)

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#122
post #8

If you're going to host user content on subdomains, then you should probably have your site on the Public Suffix List https://publicsuffix.org/list/ . That should eventually make its way into various services so they know that a tainted subdomain doesn't taint the entire site....

The issue isn't the user-hosted content - I'm running a release build of Immich on my own server and Google flagged my entire domain.

Is it on your own domain?

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#123

A good takeaway is to separate different domains for different purposes. I had prior been tossing up the pros/cons of this (such as teaching the user to accept millions of arbitrary TLDs as official), but I think this article (and other considerations) have solidified it for me. For example www.contoso.com (public) www.contoso.blog (public with user comments) contoso.net (internal) staging.contoso.dev (dev/zero trust…

Good

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#124
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking through some of the links in this post, I there are actually two separate issues here: 1. Immich hosts user content on their domain. And should thus be on the public suffic list. 2. When users host an open source self hosted project like immich, jellyfin, etc. on their own domain it gets flagged as phishing because it looks an awful lot like the publicly hosted version, but it's on a different domain, and pos…

I don't think the Internet should be run by being on special lists (other than like, a globally run registry of domain names)... I get that SPAM, etc., are an issue, but, like f* google-chrome, I want to browse the web, not some carefully curated list of sites some giant tech company has chosen. A) you shouldn't be using google-chrome at all B) Firefox should definitely not be using that list either C) if you are goi…

Firefox and Safari also use the list. At least by default, I think you can turn it off in firefox. And on the whole, I think it is valuable to have _a_ list of known-unsafe sites. And note that Safe Browsing is a blocklist, not an allowlist.

The problem is that at least some of the people maintaining this list seem to be a little trigger happy. And I definitely thing Google probably isn't the best custodian of such a list, as they have obvious conflicts of interest.

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue isn't the user-hosted content - I'm running a release build of Immich on my own server and Google flagged my entire domain.

Is it on your own domain?

Yes, my own domain.

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#126

Be sure to see the team's whole list of Cursed Knowledge. https://immich.app/cursed-knowledge

Some of these seem less cursed, and more just security design? > Some phones will silently strip GPS data from images when apps without location permission try to access them. That strikes me as the right thing to do?

Huh. Maybe? I don't want that information available to apps to spy on me. But I do want full file contents available to some of them.

And wait. Uh oh. Does this mean my Syncthing-Fork app (which itself would never strike me as needing location services) might have my phone's images' location be stripped before making their way to my backup system?

EDIT: To answer my last question: My images transferred via Syncthing-Fork on a GrapheneOS device to another PC running Fedora Atomic have persisted the GPS data as verified by exiftool. Location permissions have not been granted to Syncthing-Fork.

Happy I didn't lose that data. But it would appear that permission to your photo files may expose your GPS locations regardless of the location permission.

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#127
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You could take about 90% of that out and into dedicated tools " But then you would loose plattform independency, the main selling point of this atrocity. Having all those APIs in a sandbox that mostly just work on billion devices is pretty powerful and a potential succesor to HTML would have to beat that, to be adopted. The best thing to happen, that I can see, is that a sane subset crystalizes, that people start to…

> Having all those APIs in a sandbox that mostly just work on billion devices is pretty powerful and a potential succesor to HTML would have to beat that, to be adopted. I think the giant major downside, is that they've written a rootkit that runs on everything, and to try to make up for that they want to make it so only sites they allow can run. It's not really very powerful at all if nobody can use it, at that poin…

"It's not really very powerful at all if nobody can use it"

But people do use it, like the both of us right now?

People also use maps, do online banking, play games, start complex interactive learning environments, collaborate in real time on documents etc.

All of that works right now.

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#128

Be sure to see the team's whole list of Cursed Knowledge. https://immich.app/cursed-knowledge

Some of these seem less cursed, and more just security design? > Some phones will silently strip GPS data from images when apps without location permission try to access them. That strikes me as the right thing to do?

I think the “cursed” part (from the developers point of view) is that some phones do that, some don’t, and if you don’t have both kinds available during testing, you might miss something?

Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous

#129

Be sure to see the team's whole list of Cursed Knowledge. https://immich.app/cursed-knowledge

Some of these seem less cursed, and more just security design? > Some phones will silently strip GPS data from images when apps without location permission try to access them. That strikes me as the right thing to do?

How does it makes sense?
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