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ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 »

klipklop wrote: post #68
cortesoft wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my Steam Deck, but it is really frustrating how many of the games i regularly play can't be played on it - Madden, EA FC, PUBG, all won't run even though the hardware is plenty to play them. The limitations of anti cheat on Linux might be insurmountable

I just refuse to buy games that rely on kernel-level anti-cheat to work.

Basically. It kinda sucks. New BF6 actually seems good for once ( since Bad Company mebbe ). And Tarkov seemed to be really up my alley. But.. kernel drm. Hard pass. Unfortunately ( or fortunately depending on your individual interpretation ), it really is up to us.

As for the kids? Well, I suppose they gotta get their hand burned somehow.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by [deleted] »

zamadatix wrote: post #64
DiabloD3 wrote: post #34

Of course, why buy this disaster when this exists: https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/handheld-gaming/amd...

One disaster for another - why spend thousands on a giant "portable" with a 1-2 hour gaming time before you have to power it off to swap the bulky external battery.

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by _carbyau_ »

op00to wrote: post #62
yowmamasita wrote: post #46

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I dont know... price, maybe?

also the fact that it doesn’t have an internal battery

I understand weight as an issue on a portable but since when is being able to replace the battery a design fault?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by Marsymars »

dijit wrote: post #115
Marsymars wrote: post #101

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Is it defeatism? I don’t game on Linux and generally like Windows, but from a principle and security perspective I’d preferably check a box on Windows to disallow any kernel-level anticheat from installing, and avoid any such games.

That’s fine, then those games are not available to you. I’ll be honest, no matter how unpopular it is I’m really sorry, but those kind of solutions genuinely are the only way. I’ve said it before on HN, but we really do try everything. And not having anything leads to some of the worst experiences possible. If you genuinely have a better solution, then you are more than welcome to enter the industry and make a signif…

> That’s fine, then those games are not available to you.

See, this is my problem. I have no interest in online multiplayer, so anti-cheat is purely of negative value to me.

I understand the problem with cheaters, and if I did play multiplayer games, I'd want every effort taken to eliminate cheating.

I'd be perfectly happy if I could uncheck the "anti-cheat and online capabilities" checkbox in the game installer (or have it default unchecked when the OS indicates that anticheat isn't supported), and I could go on my way and play my single player game.

IMO that's a better solution technically, and for me personally, but I don't know that there's much money to be made in sales to single-player-only non-microtransaction-consuming gamers who were otherwise forgoing games.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by Gigachad »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #70
Gigachad wrote: post #48

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Competitive online gaming is the least strong part of the steam deck. But on the flip side it’s way better for local multi player. You can pack it in your bag with some controllers and plug it in to a friends TV easily.

Very few games bother with local multiplayer anymore

Idk about that. The selection is pretty huge. Sonic racing just came out with 4 player local multi player, stardew valley has it, the majority of Nintendo games. Almost the majority of games designed for a TV and controller have local multiplayer. And there’s software you can use to split screen most games which don’t have it by just running two instances of the game.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by cultofmetatron »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #56
cortesoft wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my Steam Deck, but it is really frustrating how many of the games i regularly play can't be played on it - Madden, EA FC, PUBG, all won't run even though the hardware is plenty to play them. The limitations of anti cheat on Linux might be insurmountable

I love the idea of my Steam Deck, but most steam games just aren't make for tiny 720 screens. I'm an old man now, I can't read tiny fonts. Also, the face buttons are just to far to the right. My thumb will begin aching after 15 mins or so. Other controllers are far more comfortable. To be honest. I like my Playdate more than my Steam Deck.

I use cinema glassses (rayneo S3). absolute game changer. I can play games on massive virtual screen in 1080p. and best of all, it fits in the bag alongside my steamdeck.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by d3Xt3r »

klipklop wrote: post #111
lawlessone wrote: post #78

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If they switch to steamos doesn't that ameliorate the harm?

I think that is a nice start, but I don't want sales of "Xbox" devices growing so Microsoft throws more weight behind them.

What if they're not "Xbox" branded? Eg GPD devices (they even advertise official Bazzite support).

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by [deleted] »

zozbot234 wrote: post #42

On the other hand, Linux still lacks a gamepad-focused UX out of the box, which is the real selling proposition of this device. These handheld PC's are not inherently "gaming" machines, they could have all sorts of interesting enterprise-focused uses out in the field if we managed to find a nice way of centering the whole UX interaction on those weird chorded buttons and analog controls.

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by estimator7292 »

cortesoft wrote: post #47
klipklop wrote: post #31

I know this is extreme, but people buying these Xbox handhelds over a Steam Deck are directly harming the future of gaming on PC. It's time that the PC gaming ecosystem breaks free from its dependency on Windows. Proton and SteamOS, combined with the unpopular mess that is Windows 11 is the perfect opportunity to do so. The long-term end goal for Microsoft is to lock down Windows and force signed code. Once users are…

I love my Steam Deck, but it is really frustrating how many of the games i regularly play can't be played on it - Madden, EA FC, PUBG, all won't run even though the hardware is plenty to play them. The limitations of anti cheat on Linux might be insurmountable

Counter: it's the publisher's fault, not Linux. As you said, the hardware is perfectly capable, and the OS is capable, publishers just refuse to allow it without installing kernel level malware.

It's EA's fault that you're required to install a damn rootkit to play a game. It's not the fault of Linux for refusing to allow this. Microsoft shouldn't allow it either, and they will likely shut it down before too much longer.

EA wants to intentionally compromise your computer. Linux says they can't do that. EA doesn't want you to play on Linux.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by d3Xt3r »

mulmen wrote: post #6
HelloUsername wrote: post #2

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ambCqcFuexk Also, why didn't they install SteamOS directly? https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-42...

Not sure what the specific benefits of SteamOS are. It’s forked from Arch, I don’t know what Valve changes. Maybe slightly better hardware support for Steam Deck? I run Steam on Fedora on my desktop and have no issues.

I don't run SteamOS but I run Bazzite on my desktop, the main advantage of running these immutable gaming distros is to have a fuss-free gaming experience - my PC boots straight to Steam, and I never ever have to worry about OS updates or other maintenance tasks. Basically I get to enjoy a console-like gaming experience.

I work as a sysadmin during the day, fixing PCs and stuff, and I really don't want to continue doing that after I get home - I just want to pick up my controller, put my feet up and get straight to gaming without having to worry about updates and other PC annoyances.

The best part is, if on the rate ocassion an update breaks something,I can easily boot straight to the previous image from the boot menu, without needing to run any commands or do anything special post-boot. And with Bazzite (and other uBlue distros), I can go back upto 90 days worth of images (3 previous local images + older images pulled from the cloud). I can also pin a known "good" image so it'll always be available in the boot menu. Essentially I get a rock solid unbreakable system, which is great because after a hard day's work, I really don't have the patience to deal with any PC issues at home.

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