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Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

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Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

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Actual legal threats are uncommon but I have seen some companies try to offer a bribe disguised as a retroactive bug bounty program, in exchange for not publishing. Obviously it is important to decline that.

Decline because it'd mean you were profiting off of a crime? Or that the opportunity of publishing has higher value than the bribe?

Take the Money and have someone else publish it

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#122

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I’ve used browser dev tools to regularly add additional drop down options to menus that weren’t present. Huel, for example, only offered 2 or 4 week subscriptions, so I added 3 weeks to it because that’s the frequency I needed, and it worked no problem. 3 weeks later my shakes arrived and every 3 weeks since.

My insurance company has different frontend password regex on registration page and on login page. My password passed the registration regex but fails the login regex. In order to log in, I need to manually remove the frontend-side password regex check.

Ever since I started using a password manager (a long time ago), I have encountered SO MANY password bugs. But one of the most frustrating issues, is when a website asks you to create a password, but does not tell you what length or characters are accepted. So you have to dumb down Keepass incrementally until it passes. A tedious game.

If your software doesn't accept this password, please change career immediately:

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Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#123

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> A kid showed up a bunch of big names. The kid purposely changed the price of a service to lower it to an insignificant fraction (reportedly from ~27£ to ~0.15£). If that same kid went around a supermarket replacing price tags to lower the selling price, would you call it "showing up a bunch of big names"? Say what you may about how broken and buggy the system was. Purposely misusing it for financial advantage is st…

if the kid could successfully modify the scanned value of physical barcodes a) that would be quite the feat and b) that would absolutely be showing up a bunch of big names

It wouldn't be quite the feat at all. Barcodes for pre-priced items sold by weight (cheese, meat, etc.) encode the price in the last four digits. Replacing those would be trivial.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

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Lesson: instead of being the good guy and reporting shit, just sell it on black market.

(playing the devil's advocate here) But that's not the case- if you find someone's physical keys in the street, will try to open the neighbor's door with it? so why is it ok to use a password that you "found" to log into a site?

No, it's different. I would compare it to my neighbor using a padlock with code combination. It takes 15 minutes to brute-force that. If I tell my neighbor that his padlock is shit and in response he sues me to oblivion, next time I'll just tell local thugs "hey here's the padlock, here's the code, do what you must", zero regrets, if the asshole insists on being an asshole just for the shits and giggles then so will I.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#125

That's not just one vulnerability, that's a whole slew of failures. For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hope you got at least free tickets for life out of this.

> For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that.

I hate this kind of post-hoc finger pointing people do after security breaches. There are other concerns in life beyond security - youre naive to think differently. Is your house secure or could somebody break past your protections? Have you harmed your defensive posture with negligence of security? Do you even care?

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#126

Rule 1. NEVER trust user supplied data. Once that rule was broken, any other rules broken became clear to everyone

Rule 0: Any networked computer should be considered semi-public. Don't store any information you do not want to be public, or give access to controls that you do not want to be publicly accessible, on a networked computer. There are simply too many vulnerabilities to assume otherwise.

I doubt there are many people in rich countries that follow this rule, given that smartphones are networked computers and people don't want their personal photos to he publicly accessible.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#127

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Rule 0: Any networked computer should be considered semi-public. Don't store any information you do not want to be public, or give access to controls that you do not want to be publicly accessible, on a networked computer. There are simply too many vulnerabilities to assume otherwise.

I doubt there are many people in rich countries that follow this rule, given that smartphones are networked computers and people don't want their personal photos to he publicly accessible.

> I doubt there are many people in rich countries that follow this rule

I agree, there definitely are many people who don't follow the rule! And so we get things like this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_celebrity_nude_photo_leak

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#128

That's not just one vulnerability, that's a whole slew of failures. For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hope you got at least free tickets for life out of this.

> For instance there is absolutely no need to keep those documents on the live server for applicants once they have been used for their intended purpose. Blast radius reduction and all that. I hate this kind of post-hoc finger pointing people do after security breaches. There are other concerns in life beyond security - youre naive to think differently. Is your house secure or could somebody break past your protectio…

I hope you never handle other people's PII with that attitude. It should well and beyond be treated more securely by a company collecting it than some random person's house or individual set up, there are laws about this.

Re: Accessing Max Verstappen's passport and PII through FIA bugs

#130

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> A kid showed up a bunch of big names. The kid purposely changed the price of a service to lower it to an insignificant fraction (reportedly from ~27£ to ~0.15£). If that same kid went around a supermarket replacing price tags to lower the selling price, would you call it "showing up a bunch of big names"? Say what you may about how broken and buggy the system was. Purposely misusing it for financial advantage is st…

if the kid could successfully modify the scanned value of physical barcodes a) that would be quite the feat and b) that would absolutely be showing up a bunch of big names

This attack has been done trivially for years - you just sticker over the barcode with the barcode of a cheaper item in the store. If you plan to use self-service checkouts for this scam, pick cheaper item with same weight or with a tag that prices cheaply per unit of weight (produce) etc.
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