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Re: HP SitePrint

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Post by ansgri »

Lammy wrote: post #73

The landing page and FAQ heavily imply that HP's cloud service is the only way to control the thing. Spec sheet shows the robot as having “Connectivity: Bluetooth, 4G, WiFi”, so it can connect to the cell network directly: https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/getpdf.aspx/c08982823.pdf Landing page sez “How HP SitePrint works: Use the HP plugin to get a robot-ready file … Save the 2D .dxf file into the cloud”. FAQ agrees, un…

I wouldn’t be surprised if many construction sites have no way to get reliable internet connection without adding complex infrastructure: think of an underground parking with poor cellular coverage even on surface (in a country without Starlink support for extra difficulty).

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Post by dv_dt »

tdeck wrote: post #106
jvanderbot wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like the just-world response. But how can one force this? If they just say "No" you end up taking them to court and delaying the construction of your house. You endanger the contracts for downstream work. I had a landscaper screw up just about everything they could building a retaining wall, and they couldn't even get me an extra bag of grass seed after the fact.

Also im the US builders routinely create a separate shell corporation for each job so it can simply go bankrupt if they get sued rather than paying out.

I routinely check the age of a contractor license for just this reason

Re: HP SitePrint

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Post by xattt »

rcleveng wrote: post #103
1970-01-01 wrote: post #8

Take your pick: If you give it a big job, it freezes halfway and just spins its wheels as fast as it can until you unplug it. It refuses to paint yellow lines when it's out of blue paint. It asks you for feedback after doing any and every job. It doesn't have good Linux support. It has no off button. The only modes are printing, standby at half power, or unplugged. When you want to just print a small blue square on t…

That sounds just like my HP printer at home, I wonder if it's the same internals. Just need to add that after being on for a day you get a blue screen with some hex numbers on it. If it's been on for less than a day, you have to power cycle it for it to connect to apple devices. Finally if you power cycle it, it complains about being power cycled incorrectly and does nothing for 10 minutes.

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Re: HP SitePrint

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Post by bigbuppo »

bitwize wrote: post #49

Logo Turtle: Enterprise Edition. Can only be used with special DRM'd HP pencils. Must download and register with the app after it draws 25m of lines to continue use.

Costs only $149.99 but refills are $279,415.37, but if pay a monthly subscription at a quarter of that they send you a new time-locked cartridge every month.

Re: HP SitePrint

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Post by mattmaroon »

kbar13 wrote: post #89
mattmaroon wrote: post #85

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Well, it definitely is. Now you’ve probably got to wait for a lawsuit to settle and then the work to be redone. Even in the absolute best case, this puts the project behind by months, and that’s if they don’t contest it.

yes but a built house is a lifelong thing. multiple decades. a few months here is not worth decades of pain

You clearly have never been through a lawsuit. If they choose to fight it, it is a few years, not a few months.

Also, a lot of people who build a house do not live in them for a very long time. In fact, there is no data to show they live with them for longer than people who buy existing homes.

I am certain that if you went through this, you would find it to be a very large problem.

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Post by xp84 »

dom96 wrote: post #62
nevi-me wrote: post #31

I could have benefited from this in the construction of our house. Riddled with inaccuracies, the engineer signed off on the foundations, but we found out when the walls were up that the builders used the internal dimensions as exterior dimensions. So our house is smaller by ~250mm on each side. We had to make so many compromises and wastages as a result. Bathrooms now smaller if we want to keep other rooms the same,…

Did you consider adding some buffer to your plan's measurements to account for exactly these kinds of screw ups?

Given his bathtubs didn’t fit, I would guess he didn’t

Re: HP SitePrint

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Post by sidewndr46 »

nevi-me wrote: post #78
sidewndr46 wrote: post #68

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Did you use a contractor for this build? The neighbors of my parents ran into this, but somehow the foundation team added around a foot in all dimensions. The owner of the property refused to accept anything other than a new foundation. The contractor refused and from what my Dad told me the home owner was forced to sell to the contractor by the courts as their recourse. This story also seems a litle off unless the c…

We used a contractor yes. Oddly, the civil engineer signed off on the foundations. I think what happened is that the foundations might have been correct, but when they started laying bricks, they used the internal dimensions. The foundation is normally 500-600mm wide. Another funny story is that we have a concrete column in the living room that was meant to be 250mm x 250mm. The subcontractor decided to box it in and…

So a 250 x 250 column became 450 x 450? That's a 3.24 times increase in cross sectional area. This would imply something like a safety factor of 12 if the standard safety factor of 4 was used in the original engineering.

I guess concrete must be really cheap whereever you are? I don't know many subcontractors excited about using 3 times the concrete for something.

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