Good grief. Developers who use Unity/Unreal/Game Maker/ whatever don’t announce their game as being a revolutionary new tech. The problem isn’t that they made yet another chromium based browser with their garbage on top. The problem is that they’re positioning it as this exciting and radical new thing when it’s just chromium with their garbage on top.
You’re not the target audience for the announcement, but like many people, they probably already know that and just want to be annoyed.
Who exactly is the target audience? Browser not exactly a hot bed of competition. Am I in the market for an AI browser? No.
But is anyone?
Those features are already being pushed in the browsers people actually use.
Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…
Full support for Ublock Origin. Perhaps at the native level rather than as an extension.
Genuinely curious - what do people want to see from a new/different rendering engine? The web is crazy complex these days because it is an entire app platform. The incentive for anyone building a browser is to use the platform that gives you the best web compat especially at the outset when you don’t have enough users of your app to be able to make big changes to the platform. Even Chrome didn’t start from scratch -…
Full support for Ublock Origin. Perhaps at the native level rather than as an extension.
I'd go a step further: has OpenAI actually achieved any significant research breakthroughs on par with Google's transformers? So why does everybody think they will achieve the next N breakthroughs necessary to get to AGI?
They basically invented LLMs as we know them (autoregressive transformers trained on web data) with the GPT 1/2/3 series of papers. They also pioneered reasoning models, which are probably the biggest breakthrough since GPT-3 on the AGI tech tree.
Google invented transformers. OpenAI just released their model to the public first. Good for them, but not exactly impressive research.
Reasoning models are pretty cool, but it was just taking what every body was already doing manually ("and please show your work") and making it automatic. The whole agentic shift is also nice but kinda obvious. But I'm still struggling with hallucinations and context rot all the time and it's becoming increasingly clear that that's not something that can be solved incrementally. We need more architectural breakthroughs like the transformer to achieve something like real AGI. Possibly several more.
> Yesterday, OpenAI announced Atlas, its AI browser. To the surprise of literally nobody, it’s Chromium with AI slapped on top. Perplexity also has a browser: it’s called Comet, and it also is Chromium with AI slapped on top. Then we have DIA, which is, you guessed it, Chromium with AI slapped on top. I think Opera also has one of those Chromium browsers with AI slapped on top. The interesting thing is what they "sla…
The bothering part is the browser factor form. Why not just an extension?
Wasn't that covered in the comment you're replying to
> Yesterday, OpenAI announced Atlas, its AI browser. To the surprise of literally nobody, it’s Chromium with AI slapped on top. Perplexity also has a browser: it’s called Comet, and it also is Chromium with AI slapped on top. Then we have DIA, which is, you guessed it, Chromium with AI slapped on top. I think Opera also has one of those Chromium browsers with AI slapped on top. The interesting thing is what they "sla…
> Chromium is an industry wide open source project like linux for good reason That "good" reason is thanks to Google's monopoly. Chromium is only technically opensource, it's still very much a Google project that's steered by them, ocassionally trying to sneak in anti-features like Web Environment Integrity, Manifest V3 etc. > We're at an interesting point in browser development Yes but that's only because of project…
> That "good" reason is thanks to Google's monopoly. Chromium is only technically opensource
That accusation is instantly disproven by the fact that the parent post literally cites 4 competitors that forked and extended it. Unless you can cite Google illegally shutting down attempts to produce a competing fork, your accusation has no basis. (If you can cite such a thing, I'd rather you bring them to court instead.)
> Chromium is an industry wide open source project like linux for good reason That "good" reason is thanks to Google's monopoly. Chromium is only technically opensource, it's still very much a Google project that's steered by them, ocassionally trying to sneak in anti-features like Web Environment Integrity, Manifest V3 etc. > We're at an interesting point in browser development Yes but that's only because of project…
> That "good" reason is thanks to Google's monopoly. Chromium is only technically opensource That accusation is instantly disproven by the fact that the parent post literally cites 4 competitors that forked and extended it. Unless you can cite Google illegally shutting down attempts to produce a competing fork, your accusation has no basis. (If you can cite such a thing, I'd rather you bring them to court instead.)
It's trivial for any Tom, Dick and Harry to fork an opensource project and "extend" it - but none have so far actually extended the engine - have they implemented any new W3C standards or fixed any compliance bugs? Have they made any improvements to the rendering engine? I'm not aware of any of the forks doing anything significant, besides just superficial UI features and preventing merging certain pieces of code (like Manifest V3). If any of the forks have deviated in any significant way (like how Blink deviated from Webkit), please do enlighten me, because otherwise they're just copies dependent largely on Google for all the core improvements.
For the idea of NEW browser in the age of AI I expect from browser different Rendering of the website rather than moving cursor on the screen.
Like what Wolfram Alpha does when adjusting the output view based on the type of the content queried.
And basic functionality of the browser