holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP
Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?
Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died
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We don’t even know yet how he died, isn’t it a bit early to pin it on someone?
Sure, but all the same, given what you've said, isn't it a bit weird that Kramnik himself has rushed to raise drug taking suspicions? Is he trying to divert attention? Regardless of whether he has anything to do with this, it would have been classy of him to stay quiet for a while about this
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Maybe, exactly what are you asking? What even is intelligence - that is a question I've never seen formally answered (and even if someone does, their definition may not match your intuitive feel for what it means and thus it is useless outside of the exact paper they defined it in) Formal definitions aside, it isn't possible for "stupid" people to be good at chess. There also is no other animal or known alien that is…
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#124There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…
So Kramnik likes to engage in mobbing? What does the community say about this?
As it is, he's already behaved in awful ways: accusing children of cheating without evidence, for example, and effectively doxxing them.
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#126Staying on the Internet and be dependent on it in some way financially working as a streamer with all the short form communication and negativity online. Together with cyber bullies etc. A lot of things creating a perfect storm for what seemed to be a sensitive and very nice guy. Easy to say that his family and real life friends should have seen it too and make him change path but in reality it is difficult. Especially since things that make it worse like sitting down and playing chess all day / night and not getting enough sleep, together with cyber bullies is also the things that you love, you earn money on and you have many of your friends there.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but all the same, given what you've said, isn't it a bit weird that Kramnik himself has rushed to raise drug taking suspicions? Is he trying to divert attention? Regardless of whether he has anything to do with this, it would have been classy of him to stay quiet for a while about this
I guess, I’m not particularly a fan of JAQing off regardless of if I have a distaste for the person in question.
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#128I was an avid watcher of his Stream while he was regular streamer and commentator (amongst the best in the world), unfortunately saw the effect of his once idol Kramnik's accusations had on him, having to constantly prove himself, even in is his last stream [1], playing beyond exhaustion to the point his friends had to get him to physically switch off his stream, but he didn't want to because he was worried that if he had good results off stream that people would raise questions.
Kramnik was an ex World Champion, became unhinged and started indiscriminately accusing many GMs who beat him in short time controls of cheating, absurd claims made from his bedroom watching streams playing detective, where he accused #2 GM Hikaru that he had access to an evaluation bar which his editors added on his games he reviews before publishing them to YouTube [2]. In addition to torturing Danya with accusations for a year he also drove GM David Navara to depression [3] who he is currently trying to sue for defamation.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbk-mvBmLUM
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1dtlvcb/kramnik_beli...
[3] https://www.chess.com/blog/FormerProdigy/because-we-care
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is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?
I think Hikaru’s fans made him take an IQ or intelligence test a couple of years ago and it showed he wasn’t exactly a mastermind. He said at the time something along the lines that being good at chess shows you are intelligent only in that one domain of chess-type thinking, not general intelligence.
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Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving. It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context. (from Wikipedia) Intelligence is mul…
Intelligence presents in different way, but they’re all correlated with each other. The idea that people can be intelligent in different things is mostly a myth: https://researched.org.uk/2018/09/26/myth-busting-gardners-m...
"'Even in our book, we don’t want to call this theory a complete myth, but instead label it as ‘nuanced’."