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Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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My 11yo son was totally into this, and I was shocked his mother had let him watch the whole series.

So, since he already already watched it, I watched a bunch of it too just to know what he actually watched. And it was so, Yuck for me.

But he was super into it so I met him where he was at and even made him a custom Skibidi Speakerman Halloween costume.

He wore it for Halloween and only one kid recognized his costume. And unfortunately the kid was like seven.

And he quickly lost interest in it after that.

So many interesting cultural things that we have to witness the younger generation go through. And then we remember that our older generations had the same level of disgust about things that we are/were doing.

And we think we turned out fine. And our younger generations will probably turn out fine too. Tons of mental health issues of course, but maybe we can all learn together.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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I went into Target yesterday with my daughters. There was a half wall of skibidi toilet merch. Right underneath the Mr. Beast merch. I've seen a video or two of skibidi toilet, and it looks like something a 14 year old boy would make at his first pass with blender. Is this the modern day "Adventures of Tom Sawyer", a masterpiece that no one over 19 is able to recognize? I feel like we have ai slop and then we have 14…

I watched the first video a long time ago to see what the deal was, and reckoned it was just one of those silly, absurd videos that become well-known for whatever reason. The tradition of very stupid, absurd stuff taking off on the internet goes back to at least “Mr T Ate My Balls” and hell, I love the long-running, weird YouTube channel “How To Basic”, so, I didn’t mind it but thought that’s all there was to it. But…

> I am not joking that I cared more about and paid more attention [...] than I care about or pay attention to at least half of the 30-45 minute final battles in Marvel movies.

That's probably because all the Marvel movies are professionals churning out the same green screen crap. Skibidi is not in my tastes, but it has the chance of being interesting because it's not an industry professional making it (afaik), at least until Michael Bay takes over.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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post #108
post #48

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And the (possible) origin of Skibidi (by Little Big): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFBTdToRmw

Also notable is Gmod Idiot Box by DasBoSchitt, which is arguably a spiritual predecessor: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF41B4E15D5443537

I love how my favorite classic GModders and SFMers are getting mentions on HN. It amazes me how this cottage industry of animators is already over 15 years old now.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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> weird shows on Adult Swim like metalocalypse and squidbillies Those masterpieces belong in the Louvre.

Most of adult swim is trash. Metalocalypse is definitely better than average but squidbillies is slop, so is a lot of stuff people here might claim to like including and especially robot chicken.

Squidbillies is more clever than you’ll ever understand. Definitely not “slop”.

From your comment it is very clear you don’t enjoy irreverent humor or animation really. Not everyone has $200 million to blow on Tron: Ares level animation.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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The point is that memes replace stodgy narratives, which are dinosaurs (news, history, novels), with semantic options. You can experience this as meaningless, or in well designed memewarefare, you can sense the density and how/where it applies to the culture today and sense that it has something to add when it's archaeology.

By definition, a meme is an idea, image, phrase, or piece of behaviour that spreads through imitation—usually because it captures something funny, relatable, or sharply true about human experience. These are as old as mankind itself. All major religions are essentially meme-conglomerates. 'Music to invade Poland to' is a memetic concept, so is the dies-irae-theme in all music since the 1400s. Memes itself are 'sodgy…

> All major religions are essentially meme-conglomerates.

This is quite the reduction, akin to claiming that my wife and I got married because human beings are a pair-bonding species - it checks out on the surface, but discards an incredible breadth and depth of human experience. I do not close my eyes at night and talk to a loose collection of ideas cobbled together by a bunch of random people attempting to outline a system of objective morality in the pursuit of societal control. I am participating in an eternal relationship with the author of truth and love.

> There's no payload, just absurd emptiness.

It's developed a commentary on internet culture vs. legacy media.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that memes replace stodgy narratives, which are dinosaurs (news, history, novels), with semantic options. You can experience this as meaningless, or in well designed memewarefare, you can sense the density and how/where it applies to the culture today and sense that it has something to add when it's archaeology.

By definition, a meme is an idea, image, phrase, or piece of behaviour that spreads through imitation—usually because it captures something funny, relatable, or sharply true about human experience. These are as old as mankind itself. All major religions are essentially meme-conglomerates. 'Music to invade Poland to' is a memetic concept, so is the dies-irae-theme in all music since the 1400s. Memes itself are 'sodgy…

Reminds me of urban legends and it feels like the meme culture has replaced a lot of what urban legends used to communicate.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of adult swim is trash. Metalocalypse is definitely better than average but squidbillies is slop, so is a lot of stuff people here might claim to like including and especially robot chicken.

Squidbillies is more clever than you’ll ever understand. Definitely not “slop”. From your comment it is very clear you don’t enjoy irreverent humor or animation really. Not everyone has $200 million to blow on Tron: Ares level animation.

I liked Moral Oral, and the PJs, Venture Brothers, and even really whacky stuff they did like Xavier: Renegade Angel. I could even sort of get stuff like Superjail. But Squidbillies is a bridge too far. So was home movies.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that memes replace stodgy narratives, which are dinosaurs (news, history, novels), with semantic options. You can experience this as meaningless, or in well designed memewarefare, you can sense the density and how/where it applies to the culture today and sense that it has something to add when it's archaeology.

By definition, a meme is an idea, image, phrase, or piece of behaviour that spreads through imitation—usually because it captures something funny, relatable, or sharply true about human experience. These are as old as mankind itself. All major religions are essentially meme-conglomerates. 'Music to invade Poland to' is a memetic concept, so is the dies-irae-theme in all music since the 1400s. Memes itself are 'sodgy…

> These are as old as mankind itself. All major religions are essentially meme-conglomerates.

I find the whole idea that thought equals memes to be excessively reductionist. It neglects the notion of coherence in thought, and the way larger coherent beliefs and narratives are built out of smaller parts. The thing about "dinosaur" formats like novels and books and such is that they can express large coherent bodies of thought.

The way memes have taken over online discourse tends toward a kind of anti-intellectualism where ideas are considered entirely in isolation and there is no effort made to relate them to one another. It leads to insane self-contradictory positions like "libertarian fascism" to give one random example. A lot of modern online discourse is what I might call meme salad, which like word salad lacks coherence.

It's sort of like describing a program as a bunch of functions or instructions. Yes, it is that, but there is a design, a coherence, a larger idea being expressed. There are also design patterns and motifs, layers of abstraction, etc. None of that is captured by the meme idea, and as popularly understood the meme idea tends to neglect and devalue that.

I also always found the selfish gene idea excessively reductionistic in genetics. Yes you can model evolution as survival of the fittest genes, but this neglects the way genes work together to form higher order systems that are themselves subjected to selection. Selection can operate at the genetic level but also at higher levels. In evolution look into group selection, the evolution of evolvability, epigenetics, gene regulatory networks, etc.

Re: Nightmare Fuel: Skibidi Toilet and the Monstrous Digital

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post #20

Its completely destroying the minds of the youth. Back when I was a kid, we had proper narrative videos online like badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM...

And quality educational content like "Hokay, so, here's the Earth, chilling. 'Wow, that's a sweet Earth,' you might say. ROUND!"
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