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Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #108

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donate to both, though give Debian more because they don't have a Mark Shuttleworth :)

Mark Shuttleworth is a Debian Developer.

That's great, but pretty sure he didn't donate 10 million quid to the Debian foundation. We're talking financial support here.

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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Okay but it doesn't change my point: better use apt-get.

You said: "In general it's not good to use that command because it can leave your system in an inconsistent state -- when there are packages which depend on the package you just removed." I demonstrated that dpkg will not remove packages with dependencies. Furthermore some packages are so crucial (ie: essential) that dpkg does not even bother checking dependencies before erroring out. How does that not change your po…

The reason I gave was incorrect (I was confused with what happens when you install a .deb file without installing its dependencies), but the point of apt-get being better than dpkg for this still stands.

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said: "In general it's not good to use that command because it can leave your system in an inconsistent state -- when there are packages which depend on the package you just removed." I demonstrated that dpkg will not remove packages with dependencies. Furthermore some packages are so crucial (ie: essential) that dpkg does not even bother checking dependencies before erroring out. How does that not change your po…

The reason I gave was incorrect (I was confused with what happens when you install a .deb file without installing its dependencies), but the point of apt-get being better than dpkg for this still stands.

Your unsubstantiated claim still stands...

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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It is beyond time for Ubuntu to quit pussyfooting around and partner with ASUS or some other competent hardware manufacturer* and sell Ubuntu-branded laptops on the Ubuntu website. The Linux desktop (in various incarnations) has been in "testing" for over 15 years. Shuttleworth created Canonical and hired designers and developers to put together a 1st-class desktop system. Time to double down. Try and get some real c…

Better partner with Lenovo, Linux runs really almost perfectly on Thinkpads.

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said: "In general it's not good to use that command because it can leave your system in an inconsistent state -- when there are packages which depend on the package you just removed." I demonstrated that dpkg will not remove packages with dependencies. Furthermore some packages are so crucial (ie: essential) that dpkg does not even bother checking dependencies before erroring out. How does that not change your po…

The reason I gave was incorrect (I was confused with what happens when you install a .deb file without installing its dependencies), but the point of apt-get being better than dpkg for this still stands.

I wonder what point you're talking about. The one and only point you made was that dpkg force removes packages at runtime and it doesn't do that. What other point is there?

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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What Canonical/Ubuntu should do is some text like this: "When you use Ubuntu we receive affiliate revenue based on your usage. How would you would like the money distributed?" Then have some sliders like the Humble Bundle to proportion it to the program authors, GNU/fdo etc, EFF and Canonical. Everybody wins that way - folks who don't like Canonical can set their share to zero percent. And just by using the system yo…

Drawback: that requires them to track the clicks of everyone, in order to know how much is their share.

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #53

Just a note: all the ads will be removable with the command: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping --purge

You type too much: sudo dpkg -P unity-lens-shopping

My favorite bash aliases:

alias canhaz='sudo apt-get install'

alias donotwant='sudo apt-get remove'

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #73

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or you can install xubuntu sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

Meh, Lubuntu or just go Openbox.

When I used LXDE, it had a long way to go before it could be considered equivalent to Xfce, and I ended up switching back. The ultra-lightweight window managers may be in fashion, but Xfce is mature and polished and easy enough for my mother to use, and I can't say that about Lubuntu.

The typical Ubuntu user probably won't miss much on Xubuntu. When they find that mrxvt doesn't let them use Ctrl-C/V to copy and paste, they'll be mystified. Ditto for Openbox's wu wei panel management.

Re: Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

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post #124
post #104

It is beyond time for Ubuntu to quit pussyfooting around and partner with ASUS or some other competent hardware manufacturer* and sell Ubuntu-branded laptops on the Ubuntu website. The Linux desktop (in various incarnations) has been in "testing" for over 15 years. Shuttleworth created Canonical and hired designers and developers to put together a 1st-class desktop system. Time to double down. Try and get some real c…

Better partner with Lenovo, Linux runs really almost perfectly on Thinkpads.

This would be an amazing duo. Lenovo as a company hasn't been great about supporting Linux on desktop/laptop machines, but Linux OSes tend to work great on their hardware. Many "Linux is my only OS" users I known use Thinkpads for this reason.

If Canonical could handle the technical support for Lenovo machines with pre-installed Linux I think that would be a match made in heaven.

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