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KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by andmarios »

c-hendricks wrote: post #97
wkat4242 wrote: post #67

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KDE looks different enough to windows in its default install though. And you can make it look like whatever you want, that's the best thing about it. Mine is heavily customised.

> KDE looks different enough to windows in its default Uhhhh it does? https://kde.org/content/plasma-desktop/plasma-launcher.png https://laptopmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/win10-sta... https://pointieststick.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/hebrew... https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/cho... I like KDE a lot, and yes you can configure it to look and act just abut any way you like, but it's…

It's the other way round, at least some, if not all, of these screens were in KDE before they were released in Windows. In general, KDE tends to be widely copied. Even macOS has borrowed a lot from KDE.

It has been over 10 years since I stopped being a KDE fanboy and became just a regular fan, but I remember that during my flame-war era, many features from KDE would often appear in Mac OS and Windows and their most popular applications (such as iTunes).

These days I don't care so much, I use KDE and I'm too old to switch.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by sgc »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #86
sgc wrote: post #56

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This seemed like something relatively easy for chatgpt to handle. The response is a bit complicated compared to what it sounds like you are looking for (it's not from the kde settings gui), but still a two minute "fix".

Did the response ChatGPT give you actually work, or did it confidently hallucinate?

It was easy enough and I have enough experience with kde and linux to know it would work. I have no interest in doing this although I do similar things with "Input Remapper". My point, which I tried to state kindly, was it is not that hard and not worth complaining about - basically a 2025 "Let me google that for you".

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by arvigeus »

frameset wrote: post #25

I'm absolutely loving KDE since I returned to desktop Linux after a long absence. What really shocks me is how few of the big distros make KDE a default or "first class" DE choice. If I was a novice user coming from Windows, I'd much prefer KDE, which if you stick to the GUI is very navigable and similar in some ways.

> What really shocks me is how few of the big distros make KDE a default or "first class" DE choice.

There’s a reason for that: KDE has more irregular release schedule than GNOME. KDE folks are working on that, so expect situation to change.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by amlib »

dapperdrake wrote: post #36
frameset wrote: post #25

I'm absolutely loving KDE since I returned to desktop Linux after a long absence. What really shocks me is how few of the big distros make KDE a default or "first class" DE choice. If I was a novice user coming from Windows, I'd much prefer KDE, which if you stick to the GUI is very navigable and similar in some ways.

GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

> GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2.

It gutted itself because quite frankly it was anemic at best. I was a heavy KDE 3 user back then and I vastly preferred it compared to gnome 2, but as a long time linux user I also recognize that ALL desktop linux solutions were pretty rough back them. This "gutting" was certainly painful and questionable but what we have today, KDE 6 (it also went trough painful changes in KDE 4) and GNOME 49 are leagues ahead of what we had back them and I honestly think it's important for both of these DE to remain distinct.

> And GNOME lives on as a sorry excuse for a bad copy of MacOS desktop looks without the feel.

It feels nothing like MacOS because it doesn't have 40 years of macintosh baggage in it, resulting in it being much more approachable for PC/windows users. I dare say GNOME earns it's distinction of being neither mac or windows, but it's own thing. It is very usable and approachable across beginners and advanced users, but lacks that depth you encounter in the competition.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by array_key_first »

guerrilla wrote: post #63
dapperdrake wrote: post #36

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GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

As a long-time GNOME user, I support this sentiment entirely. What a disaster. It keeps getting worse too. Now you can barely even tell foreground from background windows thanks to this Adwaita bullshit. First they removed all the features, now they're removing all of the visual information.

To be fair to gnome, most modern software has moved this way.

It's bad and I hate it, but at least it's not surprising.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by array_key_first »

kelvinjps10 wrote: post #47
c0wb0yc0d3r wrote: post #34

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There is Java and bedrock. Everyone I know has Java. There are other differences, but multiplayer is available in both.

The difference it's that bedrock allows you to play with the people that use Minecraft on consoles or mobile and Java doesn't

Another key difference is that Java has mods and shaders, bedrock doesn't.

Mojang is trying to fix this with resource and data packs, but even still, those are not full powered mods.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by [deleted] »

andmarios wrote: post #119
WD-42 wrote: post #98

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It’s the default because it’s much easier to provide a consistent desktop with gnome compared to KDE. Let’s face it, most quality Linux desktop apps use GTK. Even Firefox uses gtk. So you can make KDE the default but you’re going to be forced to ship a smattering of gnome/gtk apps anyway with different ui/ux and looks. On the other hand, you can easily ship a GNOME desktop without even shipping qt libraries at all.

I would argue it's the other way round. :) Even GIMP, the one GTK app I would never expect to be surpassed by a KDE app, is being outdone by Krita these days.

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Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by array_key_first »

morshu9001 wrote: post #103
edwcross wrote: post #70

I'm increasingly pessimistic about everyday reach of Linux. Around me, all I see are Windows users, volunteers teaching old people how to use several tools... on Windows. Public institutions relying on Windows, upgrading to Windows 11, doing everything despite Trump, despite Microsoft, despite all of the negatives associated with it. When primary school students are given Windows laptops instead of Linux ones, there'…

First and biggest challenge is that there's no single default desktop Linux, and even one distro could have different DEs, window servers, etc. Imagine asking for tech support as a newbie, and giving your laptop model and OS and version is still not enough info.

It's completely unavoidable with open source software, we just have to adapt around it.

Re: KDE celebrates the 29th birthday and kicks off the yearly fundraiser

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Post by morshu9001 »

WD-42 wrote: post #98
dapperdrake wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GNOME essentially gutted itself when it switched away from GNOME 2. Somehow they still stuck around as a broken default. Go figure. IIRC, then a lot of documentation still mentions GNOME first and then KDE second. Furthermore, Ubuntu without the prefix is GNOME. Kubuntu is KDE. And all the others like Lubuntu, etc. all seem "special" to casual users. Think of what the average university student installs in a VM, when…

It’s the default because it’s much easier to provide a consistent desktop with gnome compared to KDE. Let’s face it, most quality Linux desktop apps use GTK. Even Firefox uses gtk. So you can make KDE the default but you’re going to be forced to ship a smattering of gnome/gtk apps anyway with different ui/ux and looks. On the other hand, you can easily ship a GNOME desktop without even shipping qt libraries at all.

Is this an actual usability problem, or is the UI just less pretty when you use GTK apps in KDE?
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