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Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by throAway007 »

Retric wrote: post #104
nradov wrote: post #98

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It ought to be possible to test that hypothesis by comparing publicly available race results for the same athletes on the same courses before and after the pandemic relative to the expected age-related performance loss. Anecdotally as an age-group endurance athlete I'm not seeing any big declines in myself and my friends so I'm highly skeptical that 20% were "ravaged". The actual incidence of significant loss of pulm…

> you'd have to throw out the slower finishers who maybe weren't trying hard. But if there's a significant correlation then it ought to show up. Poor performers and no shows are exactly the population you’re looking for. To be clear the argument isn’t about a 10% decline across the board among people with long COVID as there’s non cardio pulmonary symptoms like brain fog, loss of smell, and difficulty sleeping. If 80…

This makes sense. I would've been marked as a "no show" because I had to rescind a job offer because of long COVID which lasted a year. From the government's point of view I was just an unremarkable figure prolonging my bout of unemployment when in fact I had a great job offer lined up that went to shit because I got COVID while on my little bit of celebratory vacation

The PVCs, adrenaline dumps, sleeping problems and anxiety/panic were insane! The doctor thought that my hypothalamus was inflamed because of COVID.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by throAway007 »

cheschire wrote: post #23
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

A lot of symptoms of long covid mirror the symptoms of unhealthy living, which may make it so people either dismiss their own symptoms and don't seek diagnosis, or their complaints are dismissed by others for needing to simply improve externalities.

Doctors are at complete a loss to "diagnose" long COVID. There are only a few places which specialize in it, and even then I think they're probably grasping at straws.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by throAway007 »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #60
cheschire wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of symptoms of long covid mirror the symptoms of unhealthy living, which may make it so people either dismiss their own symptoms and don't seek diagnosis, or their complaints are dismissed by others for needing to simply improve externalities.

Couldn’t it be the other way round, that changes in health caused by other external factors erroneously get blamed on COVID? For instance, a disproportionate amount of long COVID cases are reported by women between the ages of 40 and 60, the exact age range when most women experience menopause [0]. Menopause can cause brain fog, fatigue, and other symptoms that mirror those of long COVID. Since pretty much everyone h…

I went on vacation, had a great time, then got COVID, and came back a completely nonfunctional wreck beset by random adrenaline dumps, heart palpitations, spontaneous panic attacks, and wicked insomnia. The condition lasted almost a year.

39 year old male. I was in great shape both physically and mentally before my trip.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by abracadaniel »

TaupeRanger wrote: post #111
ckosidows wrote: post #97

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The person you responded to didn't say anything about harm to themselves. They said there's nothing stopping them from donating even though they're aware of the PFAS contamination in their area. And from what I understand, PFA contamination has no bearing on whether or not you can donate.

The post implied that doing a “blood oil change” was potentially a good thing. My point is, we don’t know either way, because a study hasn’t looked at that question for health outcomes. It could be doing more harm than good, the parent commenter doesn’t know.

They linked a study in their comment.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by mzan »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

No, the paper says:

> Long COVID (LC) impacts one in five children after an acute SARS-CoV-2 infection

So, 20% of children that suffered of an acute SARS-CoV-2 infection, did not recovered immediately, but experienced also Long COVID.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by PaulKeeble »

xienze wrote: post #115
traceroute66 wrote: post #87

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> What's going on here? Perhaps its a reflection of how hard it is to get the medical community to take Long COVID seriously ? I would say there is more chance of them (sadly) telling you to go home, take a couple of paracetamol and get some rest. Or if you're lucky, they might mis-diagnose you with something else.... (No first-hand experience here, just going by one or two anecdotal stories I've heard on the grapevi…

> Perhaps its a reflection of how hard it is to get the medical community to take Long COVID seriously ? Well let’s think about why. You’ve got an illness (Long COVID) that you can’t detect and manifests itself in a myriad of ways, most of which are very vague and subjective (“brain fog” or “I can’t exercise as much as I used to”) and also not detectable. Is it any wonder doctors might think of it as today’s fibromya…

Ironic perhaps that Fibromylgia has been chosen given there are tests for the small fibre neuropathy that causes and it now has a firm diagnostic pathway.

The same will happen for Long Covid and ME/CFS, the diagnostics are there in research, they even show up in scans and tests that can be run in healthcare systems today, its just there is a resistance to run them.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by ck2 »

longcovidthrowa wrote: post #63
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #10

The paper claims that 1/5 of people experience Long COVID after an infection. Given that approximately everyone has caught COVID by now, this does not track with how rarely I've heard of people with it. Wikipedia lists much lower numbers on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID (6–7% in adults, ~1% in children, less after vaccination.) and seems to use a more liberal definition than this paper, as it mentions "Mos…

I won't make a claim to the accuracy of the numbers, but I can offer an example of how long COVID can be undercounted. My daughter was a competitive long distance runner. Months after recovering from the acute symptoms of COVID, her performance numbers were still about 10% down and no amount of training would allow her to reach her previous level of performance. After many visits to doctors and specialists, she was e…

I was a highly trained endurance athlete my entire life and covid/long-covid absolutely destroyed all of that, permanently

After 5 years I would happily trade only a 10% performance loss for the days and nights full of nerve damage pain (neuropathy)and what seems to be 30% performance loss

BTW very relevant to your daughter's story:

the first year of long-covid I was absolutely certain I had permanent lung damage and started searching everywhere for solutions

There are two possibilities that might be hopeful for her

The first is that it might not be permanent alveoli damage (which do not regenerate in humans) but rather obstruction from a "hydrogel" that forms during active covid and takes many many months if not years to dissipate entirely

1. https://images2.imgbox.com/98/e1/gw8bO0ug_o.png

The second is much more serious and not available in the United States except experimental trials for other diseases

2. "Inhaled Tissue Plasminogen Activator" or "Nebulised Rt-PA"

https://www.google.com/search?q=Nebulised+Recombinant+Tissue...

https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/113/8/539/5818885 (look at the photos in this second link)

BUT there's something you can try right away

see this table of plasminogen activators

* https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5553328/table/t0001...

at the bottoms is Nattokinase and Serrapeptase

which are simple enzymes, you can buy Natto-Serra on Amazon and very very slowly perhaps over many months it might help her lungs (this is just a guess)

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by colechristensen »

withinboredom wrote: post #95
colechristensen wrote: post #84

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Before antibiotics, nontrivial wounds were often death sentences because of infection.

I never needed an antibiotic to live from these wounds. I’ve needed them from other things (almost died from strep) but not wounds.

You've also probably lived your whole life in urban areas shaped by personal injury lawyers and don't spend your life doing hard labor so you may not have gotten any serious cuts or broken bones because if your lifestyle.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by colechristensen »

withinboredom wrote: post #110
hbs18 wrote: post #109

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You live in a very different world compared to one before antibiotics.

If death were so guaranteed from injuries, I doubt we’d have survived as a species.

This is why most women spent most of their adult life pregnant and there's still lingering moral pressure to have children. Societies, especially as they advanced, had real trouble maintaining population through reproduction alone.

Re: Quantification of fibrinaloid clots in plasma from pediatric Long COVID patients

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Post by withinboredom »

colechristensen wrote: post #128
withinboredom wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never needed an antibiotic to live from these wounds. I’ve needed them from other things (almost died from strep) but not wounds.

You've also probably lived your whole life in urban areas shaped by personal injury lawyers and don't spend your life doing hard labor so you may not have gotten any serious cuts or broken bones because if your lifestyle.

I’ve got scars all over my body from cuts and scrapes. Some even needed stitches, back when that was a thing (now we just use some magic glue)! I’ve been lucky to never have a broken bone, but it wasn’t for lack of trying!

I didn’t live in an urban area until I was in my late 20s.

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