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Re: LineageOS 23

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I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm. Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;) It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.

There's 0 reason why bank/pay/gov apps can't be ran on a regular OS. The goal is to force users into the Google world at the excuse of "security"

Re: LineageOS 23

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With reasonable ethical you indeed might want to look into the Fairphones. The Fairphone 6 was reviewed as being a nice improvement over the 5. I'd expect LineageOS to land on that device some time in the future, after all the prior three models are supported. You could wait for that, or settle for the 5. If you want something cheap and easy instead of the Fairphone, the Motorola moto g 5G (2024) looks good. Supporte…

Thanks! Oh, I forgot to ask about the hardware working in the US? Also, does Lineage force you to make an account somewhere? I see the Murena, which I think is the same hardware. But their page says the bootloader is locked. Hmm, think that's a no-go. https://murena.com/america/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena...

Right, afaik the Murena offer is the one option to get the Fairphone 6 in the US. I would be very surprised if the bootloader is not unlockable. Bootloader locked is likely meant as something positive: They installed /e/ and then were able to relock the bootloader. You should be able to do the same - but yeah, I would double check that with them before buying, given the price...

Lineage has no account system. /e/ does, optionally.

Re: LineageOS 23

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post #99
post #58

I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm. Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;) It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.

All my banking apps works fine under lineage. The only app that does not work is McDonald. I have not investigated very far, maybe it is possible to make it work.

For the love of God, why does McD's of all people require device attestation? I assume it's some downline package they are including?

Re: LineageOS 23

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> I'm mostly happy with my GrapheneOS device - but it is absolutely not suitable for mass market. What makes you say that? I run GrapheneOS on a Pixel and had to go through the relative simple flashing process, but if GOS came preinstalled on a device anybody familiar with Android (or even iOS) would be able to use it. Compatibility with Android apps is great too.

Off the top of my head: Lots of banking apps don't work. RCS has only just started working. No "Find My Device" support. Permissions model is difficult to understand - even I struggle with it. Standard launcher has tiny icons which can't be adjusted. Pop on to https://discuss.grapheneos.org/ and see the struggles which users have.

> No "Find My Device" support.

"Find My Device" means the location of your device is constantly sent to and stored on someone else's computer (the "cloud"), and it is something that shouldn't exist unless that someone else's computer happens to be yours.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Over recent user privacy (and security) crackdowns from Google, these OS upgrades seem to be becoming more appealing. Can anyone comment on what differs Lineage from something like GrapheneOS?

I have used both, and I can personally use my smartphone properly with both. GrapheneOS is more strict about security, making it more secure but less accessible (at the moment you can only run GrapheneOS on Pixel phones). I am happy with GrapheneOS' policy: that's exactly why I use GrapheneOS, to the point where I bought a Pixel just for GrapheneOS. Many people complain about GrapheneOS not supporting other phones. I…

There is little point in fortifying the front-door when the backdoor is wide open.

The hardware itself should never be trusted when being produced by a vendor like Google and cannot be verified on the component level. Their business model completely revolves in reducing your private sphere and sell it to others.

Never use google hardware if you are serious about security.

Re: LineageOS 23

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You don't "streaming services" when you can open a Web browser and stream from the high seas, or download NewPipe from F-Droid, or download Jellyfin and stream local content.

In that case just go with Libreelec.

Libreelec is comically limited. Last time I checked the Youtube integration needed an API key tied to a Google account. No thanks. On Android, there is NewPipe and it's far better. Also no browser, so you can't stream from the high seas. Libreelec sucks for anything that isn't local playback. It's much better to run Kodi inside Android or Linux for that.

Re: LineageOS 23

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Lots of them are, in fact. It's not that hard, maybe even easier. What's wrong with the rest of them that require a phone?

NFC pay in browser? Does that exist?

Ok, less so NFC, but my bank and all the governments I have to deal with have reasonably functional websites. It's clearly possible.

Re: LineageOS 23

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post #116
post #58

I'd love to see a hybrid phone with an embedded stock android for banking, pay and government apps and a regular LinageOS or Linux OS that runs on a separate partition/hw/vm. Like "gluing" two phones together - just better ;) It would be great to run an open OS but having to carry a separate phone for banking/paying is not really a viable option.

Banking, pay and government apps should be a website and work on any device with a web browser.

My bank (Commbank) and my government (myID), both require apps to access the website.

Re: LineageOS 23

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NFC pay in browser? Does that exist?

Ok, less so NFC, but my bank and all the governments I have to deal with have reasonably functional websites. It's clearly possible.

Where are you from? I live in Germany. I use ING and DKB as my banks. Both of the banks require a Play Integrity-checked app as their default 2FA.In the past I used Sparkasse and Commerzbank. They too required a PI-approved app.

As an alternative you can order a code generator but for DKB that requires a paid debit-card. ING disables the phone app if you use a code generator. You cannot have multiple 2FA.

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