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Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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That should be where the right to a speedy trial comes into play. If he is held in jail because he isn't released on bail, the best thing to do is repeatedly file motions for the speedy trial.

A speedy trial is much slower than you’d probably think. I can’t find specific guidelines for Tennessee beyond having the right to one. The federal guidelines are generally 30 days to make a specific charge, and 70 days from then to appear before a judge. That also doesn’t ensure the case goes to trial, just that you’ve had a hearing. Ie you can spend over 3 months in jail before an hearing and still be considered to…

At the state level, if a defendant does not waive their right to a speedy trial, the time from being charged (arraignment) to trial is limited by law. It ranges from 30 days for misdemeanors to 6 months for felonies. .

In California, the clock for a misdemeanor is 30 days if a defendant is taken into custody, or 45 days if not in custody. For a felony, it's 60 days from arraignment. If the defendant remains in custody after arrest, arraignment must occur within 48 hours of arrest, or on the first business day after the 48-hour period expires if it ends on a weekend or court holiday. If the defendant is freed from custody prior to arraignment, then arraignment can occur at a later date.

In NY and most red states, the clock is approximately 6 months for felonies. Due to the longer clock, in many of these states the clock begins when the defendant is taken into custody (or the state has a shorter timeframe for trial for defendants in custody). Florida just changed its laws to make the clock start on arraignment, lengthened the time required for arraignment to 30 days for defendants in custody, and made the speedy trial right an affirmative right that the defendant must specifically assert. Unlike pretty much every other state, the clock also restarts if the prosecutor withdraws and re-files the same charges (in almost every other state, the clock is only started anew for new charges.) FL also made the consequences for violation of these rights a mere dismissal without prejudice. (TLDR: don't get arrested in Florida.)

Most defense lawyers will advise clients to waive their speedy trial rights. This is for the lawyer's benefit, not the client's. It allows the lawyer to preserve their negotiating relationship with the prosecutor for future clients. In California, due to the shortened time frames, 99% of the time it is advisable to assert speedy trial rights (especially in felonies, but even in misdemeanors) because the prosecution usually can't get its act together in time. Some forensics can't even be completed in the 60 day window. The defense win rate in proceedings where the defendant asserts their speedy trial rights is so high that prosecutors will always offer a sweetheart plea deal to avoid going to trial.

(Of course the obvious solution is for the prosecutors to just wait until they have an actual complete case before filing charges. But if they did that we wouldn't need speedy trial laws in the first place.)

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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I looked at the pictures, and even with no context, it was obvious that he was pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump with that meme. Ain't no way people looked at the picture, and genuinely thought "Is he threatening to shoot up the school?" . But then again, there are some incredibly stupid people out there. To me, it mostly seems like manufactured outrage. Someone saw him posting edgy memes, got offended, and called…

He is being punished for his speech. His persecutors aren't bold enough yet to publicly proclaim their violation of his constitutional rights, hence the verbal gymnastics.

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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They are real. I cleansed 100s of people from Facebook that were planning Charlie Kirk vigils and shit. It's real.

Are you seriously claiming it to be objectionable to mourn for a man who was murdered in cold blood? That's pretty fucked up if so.

What concern of it is yours? Will you mourn whomever I ask you to mourn? Sounds like an absurd proposition.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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The guy made multiple posts, which, taken together, made people supposedly consider him as making threats. The journalist here decides to cover this story, but only mention the content of one of his posts, and completely ignoring and not mentioning the contents of the other posts. Surely the other posts are completely benign and there's nothing of interest in there, right? Surely the journalist had a reason for only…

>Surely the journalist had a reason for only reporting on the contents of one of his posts, and not the others, and that choice wasn't intentional in order to present a biased interpretation of reality. Surely.

Yes because the sheriff explicitly stated it was the trump quote picture, and nothing else, that got the man arrested, charged and thrown in a cage.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2025/09/23/tennessee-l...

The article even links to the above.

Makes me wonder if you even read the article or already knew what I just said and are being dishonest.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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post #104
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Yes, Dang has been manually unflagging stories recently so HN has become a very different place in the last half year or so.

These are unprecedented times and we cannot afford willful ignorance.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Funfact: Icon backgroundcolor of targetsite reason.com seems to be the same as HN icon backgroundcolor :-D

rgb(244, 108, 52) vs rgb(255, 102, 0)

Well, very quite in the (optical) range, I'd say? (-:

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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People outside the U.S. should care about this because so much social media is based in the U.S.. i.e. If you post an anti-MAGA meme to Facebook or reddit from an identifiable account you could be charged as this man was. Perhaps the U.S. will try to extradite you. (I would hope most nations have sensible checks and balances to prevent extradition over this sort of thing, but it would still be a PITA.) However, the U…

> I would hope most nations have sensible checks and balances to prevent extradition over this sort of thing, but it would still be a PITA.

EDIT: If you're an emigrant:

More than just a PITA, you could still fail; see [1].

Also - I can't find the source right now - I remember hearing about Russian emigrants in Europe being charged with serious crimes in absentia over criticism of the war, and they were slated for deportation because the bureaucracy still considered all such Russian warrants as valid. The US would probably be harder to excise in this regard.

[1]https://www.dw.com/en/germany-shelters-russians-persecuted-f...

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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> Self-identified "conservatives" are pushing this wave of censorship and autocracy Are they? MAGA has made it a point to purge the former GOP of conservatives.

This just in, the National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930s is not actually Socialist !

> the National Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930s is not actually Socialist

Good comparison. One of the victims of the Night of the Long Knives were the Strasserists [1][2]. It’s absolutely legitimate to point out when the German Socialist movement was coöpted by Hitler.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism

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