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Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Tens of thousands of riders in what time period? Please, look up how many people it is capable of moving per hour, and compare that to any light rail or street car service in any city. There is no way the loop makes sense to build.

> Please, look up how many people it is capable of moving per hour …what is it?

Peak ridership is about 1300/hour. About how many people you can fit in two trams. Or 10 Disneyland people movers.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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I am not aware of threats to the atmosphere from the entry at a 100kg/day scale. And nobody is. At this point risks are hypothetical to the ozone or other layers.

I'm aware of the threats to the atmosphere from repeated and frequent rocket launches.

> I'm aware of the threats to the atmosphere from repeated and frequent rocket launches

Educate us on how methalox rockets are a significant environmental concern?

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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That is a very deceptive video/article (at least the first half above the paywall). It is true that a few of these sats will have to come down each day, but the video is of a booster failure/explosion, not a normal planned obsolescence sat re-entry. And re-entry is part of the cleanup plan . All satellites responsibly launched need a plan to deal with possible orbital waste. By decommissioning in this way, we're redu…

> the immense possible good worldwide internet It's hard to take your argument seriously if you think that's more important than preserving the environment

> hard to take your argument seriously if you think that's more important than preserving the environment

Okay, go convince a few billion Indians and Chinese they should wait to industrialize because the environment can’t take it.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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> if you are just shilling for polluting billionaires. What an acidic thing to fling. I want us to build infrastructure. Nowhere did I say we need do whatever Musk says. I want us to use cost-benefit analysis to judge infrastructure projects rather than the heavy moral framing we get a lot.

> What an acidic thing to fling.

if you don't automatically assume bad faith when dealing with hypercapitalist private infrastructure projects, you're going to be taken advantage of. every time.

that, or you're on the payroll. there's not a ton of wiggle room here.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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> And re-entry is part of the cleanup plan Polluting the upper atmosphere with copper, aluminium and other compounds with unknown consequences is hardly a cleanup plan

if you combine all the fallen starlink satellites and the debris/waste they produce in a year, it comes down to about less than 0.1% of what the earth receives from space in the same year

Is that true? I recall seeing a 16% or so number for the increase in mass burning up in the atmosphere.

Edit: I can’t find a source for any number for the increase. If you know could you share one?

Ah nevermind this seems solid https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S02731...

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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From the article: > Workers have complained of chemical burns from the waste material generated by the tunneling process, and firefighters must decontaminate their equipment after conducting rescues from the project sites. The company was fined more than $112,000 by Nevada’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration in late 2023 after workers complained of “ankle-deep” water in the tunnels, muck spills and burns.…

Indeed I agree chemical burns would suggest a real environmental hazard in this case.

Technically the term chemical burn doesn't indicate severity, just that you got in contact with a corrosive material which had an effect on your skin. My guess would be someone got lime/cement powder on themselves and reported it as a chemical burn. They could have also been dissolved alive in an acid bath, but the size of the fine and the fact propublica doesn't say what happened suggests it was minor.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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All this so a handful of passengers a week can wait for the extremely small pool of vehicles in a dusty hole

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They're not being held back by anti-progress haters, they're just straight-up ignoring the environmental agreement they voluntarily signed.

When companies have complete disregard for public welfare and dump the cost onto everyone else, that damage needs to be part of their value equation.

FTA -

>That agreement, signed by a Boring executive in 2022, was intended to compel the company to comply with state water pollution laws. Instead, state inspectors documented nearly 100 alleged new violations of the agreement.

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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All this so a handful of passengers a week can wait for the extremely small pool of vehicles in a dusty hole

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It's possible to be pro-progress while being anti-this specific thing. In particular, Elon Musk came out and admitted that he hates trains and busses and admitted that he just made up Boring Co to distract from giving money to them. The Boring Co tunnels in Vegas are a boondoggle and not even well designed (whether that's due to lack of funds or stupidity or corruption, who knows!). The problem is the opportunity cost. The millions that went into the Vegas tunnels could have gone into improving the existing monorail system, but instead there's this stupid thing.

The tunnels are cool and the technology is neat. I'm not in charge of anything, but no thanks.

Here's where I'm coming from: https://youtu.be/VPjODKUxV5g

Re: Boring Company cited for almost 800 environmental violations in Las Vegas

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Xi and Putin were caught on a hot mic talking about swapping out their organs with fresh ones. I assume from their local political enemies.

This is getting downvoted, probably because it sounds like a loony conspiracy theory... but it isn't. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/hot-mic-picks...

> This is getting downvoted

“Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.”

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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