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Re: Kurt Got Got

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I got hit with the same kind of phishing attack a couple months ago It's pretty incredible the level of UI engineering that went into it. Some screenshots I took: https://x.com/grinich/status/1963744947053703309

I'm sorry but the imagecontent-x.com url should throw red flags for anyone.

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post #121

I got hit with the same kind of phishing attack a couple months ago It's pretty incredible the level of UI engineering that went into it. Some screenshots I took: https://x.com/grinich/status/1963744947053703309

I'm sorry but the imagecontent-x.com url should throw red flags for anyone.

This is exactly how not to defend against phishing. The meaningful defense is to foreclose on it entirely, not to just get super good at spotting fakes.

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They prevent you from being one of these, and copy pasting the password from password manager into the wrong input field. Something that still happens often with many websites not properly auto-filling from password managers. > They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough

If you are "copy-pasting" you are not using your password manager correctly.

It's far too common for websites to redirect to some separate domain for sign in which isn't the one originally used to sign up, getting users used to "oh gotta copy the password again" as a totally normal thing that happens

Re: Kurt Got Got

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When we did annual pen testing audits for my last company, the security audit company always offered to do phishing or social engineering attacks, but advised against it because they said it worked every single time. One of the most memorable things they shared is they'd throw USB sticks in the parking lot of the company they were pentesting and somebody would always put the thing into a workstation to see what as on…

Our company does regular phishing attacks against our own team, which apparently gets us a noteworthy 90% ‘not-click’ rate (don’t quote me on numbers). Never mind that that 10% is still 1500 people xD It’s gone so far that they’re now sending them from our internal domains, so when the banner to warn me it was an external email wasn’t there, I also got got.

My former company would send out rewards as a thank you to employees. It was basically a “click here to receive your free gift!” email. I kept telling the security team that this was a TERRIBLE president but it continued none the less. The first time I got one I didn’t open it for ages, even after confirming the company was real. It was only after like the 5th nagging email that I asked security about it and they confirmed that it was in fact a real thing the company was using. I got a roomba, a nice outdoor chair, and some sweet headphones. =)

Re: Kurt Got Got

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are "copy-pasting" you are not using your password manager correctly.

Password managers rarely are able to autofill 100% of the time. Autofill breaking is not a very strong indicator of a phishing attempt, people are used to manually filling the password in sometimes for totally legit sites.

I'm used to 1Password not being able to autofill, yes. But I'm not used to no account showing up at all when I open the UI panel. If that happens, I immediately know I'm on the wrong domain.

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This is why properly working password managers are important, and why as a web site operator you should make sure to not break them. My password not auto-filling on a web site is a sufficient red flag to immediately become very watchful. Code-based 2FA, on the other hand, is completely useless against phishing. If I'm logging in, I'm logging in, and you're getting my 2FA code (regardless of whether it's coming from a…

the creator of https://haveibeenpwned.com got phished once (no kidding), and he uses a password manager.

And if you read the story, it's because he ignored the fact that the password manager didn't prompt auto-fill.

"I went to the link which is on mailchimp-sso.com and entered my credentials which - crucially - did not auto-complete from 1Password. I then entered the OTP and the page hung. Moments later, the penny dropped, and I logged onto the official website, which Mailchimp confirmed via a notification email which showed my London IP address:"

Re: Kurt Got Got

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I got hit with the same kind of phishing attack a couple months ago It's pretty incredible the level of UI engineering that went into it. Some screenshots I took: https://x.com/grinich/status/1963744947053703309

So, in that case the browser (correctly) did not autofill? Is that a common occurrence for legit traffic from X? And no complaint about the website's identity from the browser -- the expected "lock" icon left of the URL?

Re: Kurt Got Got

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Is there an anti-phishing extension that detects whether the domain is close to, but not exactly the popular legitimate domain? Would probably need to use a local LLM for the detection. If not I might look into making one.

Re: Kurt Got Got

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So what happened exactly? Did Kurt enter his twitter password manually after clicking on that phishing link? Did he not get his sus detector going off after the password manager didn't suggest the password?

Unfortunately, this does not work. I see no end of banks, financial institutions, let alone random companies, who keep their authentication, for some reason, on different domain than main company, and sometimes they would have initial registration (which gets recorded in password manager) on one domain, and consequent logins on another, and sometimes it depends on how you arrived at the site, or which integration are…

> Would you check the certificate for each link going there, and trace it down, or just assume Citi is up to their shenanigans again and paste the password manually?

What do you get from checking a certificate? Oh yeah, must really be citibank because they have a shitton of SANs? I'd guess most banks do have a cert with an organization name, but organization names can be misleading, and some banks might use LetsEncrypt?

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