Cool - now let's see how much it costs in compute to generate a single clip. (Also, notice how no individual scene is longer than a handful of seconds?)
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#122Sam Altman has made (for me) encouraging statements in the past about short-form video like TikTok being the best current example of misaligned AI. While this release references policies to combat "Doomscrolling and RL-sloptimization", it's curious that OpenAI would devote resources to building a social app based on AI generated short form video, which seems to be a core problem in our world. IMO you can't tweak the…
I'm optimistic about the Sora app! My hope is that it becomes much more whimsical and fun than TikTok because everyone on the app knows that all content is fake. Hopefully that means less rage-bait and more creative content, like OG YouTube. Nobody's going to get their news from Sora because it's literally 100% fake.
> it becomes much more whimsical and fun than TikTok because everyone on the app knows that all content is fake.
Sounds about as plausible as "ironically taking heroin".
> Nobody's going to get their news from Sora because it's literally 100% fake.
I'm with Neal Stephenson ("Fall", in this case) on this prediction, although I really hope I'm wrong.
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#123We are just heading for Lovely All TM.
I kid.
Art should require effort. And by that I mean effort on the part of the artist. Not environmental damage. I am SO tired of non tech friends SWOONING me with some song they made in 0.3 seconds. I tell them, sarcastically, that I am indeed very impressed with their endeavors.
I know many people will disagree with me here, but I would be heart broken if it turned out someone like Nick Cave was AI generated.
And of course this goes into a philosophical debate. What does it matter if it was generated by AI?
And that's where we are heading. But for me I feel effort is required, where we are going means close to 0 effort required. Someone here said that just raises the bar for good movies. I say that mostly means we will get 1 billion movies. Most are "free" to produce and displaces the 0.0001% human made/good stuff. I dunno. Whoever had the PR machine on point got the blockbuster. Not weird, since the studio tried 300 000 000 of them at the same time.
Who the fuck wants that?
I feel like that ship in Wall-E. Let's invest in slurpies.
Anyway; AI is here and all of that, we are all embracing it. Will be interesting to see how all this ends once the fallout lands.
Sorry for a comment that feels all over the place; on the tram :)
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#124It's obvious there is no way OpenAI can keep videos generated by this within their ecosystem. Everything will be fake, nothing real. We are going to have to change the way we interact with video. While it's obviously possible to fake videos today, it takes work by the creator and takes skill. Now it will take no skill so the obvious consequence of this is we can't believe anything we see. The worst part is we are alr…
The Sora 2 livestream indicates that videos exported from the app will have visual watermarks.
Sure, then you just pump it through another model that removes watermarks.
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#125It's fitting that they host the video on Youtube, since that is where all of their training data came from.
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#126I can see it being interesting to create wacky fake videos of your friends for a week or two, but why would people still be using this next year? I watch videos for two reasons. To see real things, or to consume interesting stories. These videos are not real, and the storytelling is still very limited.
You only watch real things? Have you never watched a movie?
> or to consume interesting stories
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#127I can see it being interesting to create wacky fake videos of your friends for a week or two, but why would people still be using this next year? I watch videos for two reasons. To see real things, or to consume interesting stories. These videos are not real, and the storytelling is still very limited.
In the right hands it's a new art medium. Some (few, maybe) midjourney generations are serious art.
So, for the same reason you'd go to a local art gallery
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#128I wonder about the implications of this tech. State of the things with doom scrolling was already bad, add to it layoffs and replacing people with AI (just admit it, interns are struggling competing with Claude Code, Cursor and Codex) What's coming next? Bunch of people, with lots of free time watching non-sense AI generated content? I am genuinely curious, because I was and still excited about AI, until I saw how do…
>What's coming next? Bunch of people, with lots of free time watching non-sense AI generated content?
Wasn't this always the outcome of the post labor economy?
For this discussion lets just say that AI+Robots could replace most human labor and thinking. What do people do? Entertainment is going to be the number one time consumer.
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#129That could totally power next generation of green-screen techs. Generative actors may not find favorable response in the audiences; but SFX, decor, extras, environments that react to actors' actions - amazing potential.
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#130Can this be used to make hyper-realistic video games, or it's not that real-time yet?