The UK has started a version of censorship the equivalent can be found in countries many would say are considered dictatorships. It is absolutely shocking as someone who lives here and needs to be fought.
Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
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Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#122> The ICO also confirmed that companies could not avoid accountability by withdrawing their services in the UK. This is quite a slippery slope. If I host a website in one country, I do not necessarily care where people access my website from. It is not like I actively provide a service to them - they just use internet (decentralised network) to access it. What if I publish a newspaper here, someone takes it where the…
> am I accountable?
If you travel to their jurisdiction, yes.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
It appears that you are mixing things here. It's not about "hosting a website", it's about providing services. If you provide services, like selling a newspaper, in the UK, you need to respect their laws, or you will suffer the legal implications of not doing so. And regarding the accountability, it refers to the fact that imgur USED TO provide services in the UK: > We have been clear that exiting the UK does not all…
What service is Imgur providing in the UK specifically?
Memes.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
But its still not the UK government's decision. They don't have sovereignty over other nations, as much as they'd like to think they do. All they can legally do is bitch and moan and order UK ISPs to block. There's no action they can legally take against Imgur.
>There's no action they can legally take against Imgur. This is a very, very dangerous game to play. This is how employees of your business on vacation in the UK end up in jail.
Imgur recently fired all of their employees, and no longer has any actual staff. No developers, no moderators, no IT guys.
An ongoing protest over the state of Imgur has been going on since the first of this month.
So, uh, _what_ employees on vacation?
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
As somebody from the UK, I think this is a great form of protest against the government.
Same - frankly google/alphabet should just HTTP 451 the UK (and I say that as a brit/someone in the UK). It'd be interesting to see how fast the policy would get reversed then. This was always a stupid policy and so protesting it by pulling services is one way to draw attention to that.
I do worry that the ability of people to understand that there is more than one law that affects internet services.
the first clue is that its the ICO that is running this. the ICO has nothing to do with the online safety act.
Secondly asking a commercial company to conform to basic data protection isn't that onerous.
Honestly its almost like HN has tumbler level reading comprehension.
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
For now. 1. Driver's licenses are becoming a web standard soon. https://github.com/w3c-fedid/digital-credentials Support was added just last week in Safari 26. https://digitalcredentials.dev 2. The UK is keeping a very close eye on VPNs. https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/could-vpn...
Driver's licenses are becoming a web standard soon. Could you elaborate on this? I for one would never elect to participate.
The search term you're looking for is "age verification laws".
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#127How do you "pull out" of the UK if you are not a UK company, you are a US company, hosted in the US, and proxied by Fastly. There's nothing to do? You do not need to abide by UK laws, even if your website is accessible from there.
You are sending data into the UK, hence you have to abide by their laws regarding said data.
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
But its still not the UK government's decision. They don't have sovereignty over other nations, as much as they'd like to think they do. All they can legally do is bitch and moan and order UK ISPs to block. There's no action they can legally take against Imgur.
>There's no action they can legally take against Imgur. This is a very, very dangerous game to play. This is how employees of your business on vacation in the UK end up in jail.
> This is how employees of your business on vacation in the UK end up in jail.
I mean its not. Because this is data protection laws, the company is liable, not its employees. (https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-re...)
Even in cases where a company causes death, or destruction and the company is found liable, employees are not allowed to be used as standins, employees need to be convicted as well. a conviction isn't fungible, that kinda the point of common law.
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#129Good for the UK IMHO. Just seeing with how many 3rd party sites Imgur shares data with is disgusting.
Re: Imgur pulls out of UK as data watchdog threatens fine
#130Hopefully many more companies do this and British internet users migrate to use of VPNs. This will apply maximum pressure on the government to reverse these parochial laws.
its not the online safety act, its basic data protection, which means they are probably breeching the Californian equivalent